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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Lloyd's paint & glass, Jul 1, 2024.

  1. High test 63
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    Congratulations on your maiden voyage Lloyd!
     
  2. Lloyd's paint & glass
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    Well it kept turning on me, so I thought I'd get a little extra on the jam nut lol... didn't work out.
     
  3. Lloyd's paint & glass
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    Thanks Randy, always calms the nerves when ya make it back lol
     
  4. It Better Be!:D:D:D

    Seriously though, I am very glad your maiden voyage was an overall success.....I don't want to win by default.:p

    I have 3 days with nothing much to do except thrash on Stubby & it is supposed to be in the 80's which will give me some serious ambition...I love the heat!

    God Bless
    Bill
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  5. Wish I could be there to watch you 2 run off. A pair of 55's with wheels up, does it get any better than that?
     
  6. I’ll take lots of pictures!
     
  7. Lloyd's paint & glass
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    Won't be pulling the front wheels on these street tires :D they're telling me that I need a 5 point harness for street class? Telling me I need long studs on the rear axles? I guess my opinion of a street car is completely different than theirs o_O
     
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  8. Street class used to be stock seat belts and stock wheel studs.
     
  9. Budget36
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    I wonder what long studs do for safety? I assume ?
     
  10. WTF????

    I had to look the other day just to see if there were any regular lap belts tucked under the seats of Stubby since I never use them & now they want a 5 point harness??? I have a long stud & Stubby does on the rear axle!:p

    God Bless
    Bill
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  11. If you were close enough I'd loan you a pair of Sticky Micky's and some 4.88's. That might help ya out.
     
  12. tomcat11
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    It's just so the tech people can see full thread engagement on the lug nuts. 5 pt in a street car? Maybe thats new or just their rules. NHRA does require them @11.49 (7.35) or quicker.
     
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  13. I think I have some expired date 5 point sets if that would help any. Heck I actually used a pair to mount the Gas Tank in my 32.
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  14. ROADSTER1927
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    Congrats Buddy that is always special!
     
  15. saltflats
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    Where are you going to mount the shoulder straps without a roll bar?
     
  16. I asked the exact same thing in my mind after reading Lloyds post.

    According to Summit Racing, the ones I am looking at from NRG Innovations, you can mount them on or around the roll bar or down to the floor in the back which tells me they must be quite long in the back. Of course if I have to order them....I will get the purple ones to match everything else! LOL

    Now I am kind of mad at myself for NOT installing the 8 point cage I bought for Stubby last year, would have made things easier & better.

    God Bless
    Bill
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  17. snoc653
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    You need to look at the rules for the speeds you’ll be running. They will probably require a roll bar if the firewall isn’t modified. The belts are not a big deal to me. I can wear or not wear the belts while street driving and the cops can’t make me wear them. They aren’t DOT approved and are for racing. Our cars are grandfathered in for no belts.
     
  18. saltflats
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    If you mount them to the floor behind the seat if you get a forward motion crash the belts will try and compress you. The instruction state that there is a maximum of how far down the mounting point can be.
     
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  19. I will have to call Summit tomorrow, I may have misread the ad. It says they come in either bolt in or wrap around. Then it says floor/roll bar, so maybe you need the roll bar!

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    Bill
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  20. Same type I use and yes they come with both brackets the roll bar and a floor mount. I use the rollbar so I take the floor mounts off, there is a certain way you must wrap them around the bar if you go that path.
    I just put a new one in my Henry J

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  21. 427 sleeper
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    What the hell kinda street car needs a 5 point harness??? o_O
    As far as the wheel studs go, can't you just use regular open ended lug nuts so the tech inspector can see full thread engagement?
     
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  22. tomcat11
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    Well, a street car that races on an NHRA sanctioned track or a track that has adopted those same rules and runs 11.49 (7.35) or quicker.

    Regular nuts on a stock steel wheel would be fine but thata ain'ta gonna fly with mag wheels that need shouldered type lug nuts. Some of these newer wheels do take a conical seat nut, but wheel center thickness might be too much. Technically, it's not the length of the stud, it's the thread engagement that counts, and has to be equal to or greater than the diameter of the stud. If the stud ain't sticking out the end of the nut they'll probably give you the stink eye and send you packing. Of course there's always that 1/2 blind tech guy with the hangover who doesn't give two $hits:eek:
     
  23. I always had an issue with this

    "Technically, it's not the length of the stud, it's the thread engagement that counts, and has to be equal to or greater than the diameter of the stud."

    If you have a mag lug nut with a long shank it has at minimum an inch of engagement from shank end to the top of lugnut. But.....if it doesn't stick out the end of the lug nut the 7/16's (diameter of stud) then it won't pass, which isn't what the rule book says.
     
  24. tomcat11
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    Yep, I agree, but them's the rules (or not!). I've seen guy's in line try and argue with the tech officials. It didn't go well for them.
     
  25. Lloyd's paint & glass
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    Hell I just wanna make a pass down the track in street class.
     
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  26. Lloyd's paint & glass
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    The thing is, I have no idea what the car will run, it's a street car, not a drag car. If it runs fast enough to require all of those safety modifications, I'll park it and drink beer while I watch everybody else lol...
     
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  27. snoc653
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    Dial it in at the quickest speed that doesn’t require the extra safety gear. Make your pass and see what it runs. If you break out by a little, you can slow the car down, park it, or add safety gear. If you go too fast they probably won’t let you just slow sown and will require safety gear.
     
  28. DDDenny
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    I smell a "hold my beer" moment coming!:eek:
     
  29. All kidding aside....I do not think either one of us is going to run faster than the 7.50 index, reason being neither one of us are running a gear for an 1/8 mile! Mine is a 3:90 & with a small block is way too low (numerically) for an 1/8 mile. If I had already installed the roll bar, I might have bought a 2nd hogs head with a 4:88 or 5:13 for this race & then kept it aside until I put a 5 speed in Stubby.

    God Bless
    Bill
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  30. tomcat11
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    Just pick a number between 7.80-8.10 and cover the basics like, wheels studs, radiator overflow (no antifreeze), reverse lock out, neutral safety switch, seat belts, helmet. Drive shaft loop is always a good idea but may not be required on street tires. Get through tech and let her rip. Remember they want you out there racing not sitting it out. They just want everyone to be as safe as possible.
     
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