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  1. paintcan54
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    Some friends came by the garage last week and we talked about this very same thing "China Parts". One friend said he had got some parts from Speedway and said China on the box, pissed him off but nobody else could get the parts, so he used them. Now he call Speedway, Speedychinaway. HAHAHA
     
  2. 296 V8
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  3. Emperor Chris
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    One day the men will be men, the women will be women, the cars will be American, the economy will be strong, the dollar will be stronger, jobs will be plentiful, we will manufacture and export more than we import, people will be proud to be American, people will care about what is on t.v., values, morals, and decency will reign, we will take care of our own first, English will return as the primary language, coffee will go back to being coffee, gas wont be $5.00 a gallon and you can choose to wear a helmet..............one day.
     
  4. patrick66
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    See below.
     

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  5. Von Rigg Fink
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    Thanks for your service sir, and my freedoms, sorry bout your loss over there:(
     
  6. Crystal Blue
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    My bowl of popcorn is still made in the USA :D
     
  7. pcterm2
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    i heard some canned goods made in china,whats next
     
  8. patrick66
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    Everything is made in China by seven-year-old slave kids getting paid a buck a day, if they are lucky, while living in compounds worse than the old "company store" and "company town" days of the late 19th and early 20th Centuries in the US. Until Americans (and other Western nations) start demanding QUALITY over LOW PRICE, nothing will change. Period. That's the way it is. Any other argument is just words.
     
  9. Royalshifter
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    Our children, families and fun are made and enjoyed here.........so what's the problem?
     
  10. sambo
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    I bought some Mooneyes gauges, made by Autometer,and they said "made in good ol' USA" along the bottom. Why should I have been so impressed? I was really pissed, working on the electronics on my softail and needed metric wrenches?
     
  11. 40FORDPU
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    I've met the enemy..and the enemy is us. Economics. I love the good old USof A, I hope one day we can balance out the import/export trade.
     
  12. Ebert
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    Well said. And as another post said, it is our fricking government that imposes costly, unrealistic and unreasonable taxes and regs on all of business and especially small businesses which are the lifeblood of our country and economy. I realize that I will get *****-slapped for this, but how many times do you read on the HAMB that people "won't pay X for this as it is too expensive." I truly tire of that...you get what you pay for folks.

    I will bet you a nickle that Bob Drake would prefer NOT to source parts in China...it is a pain in the ***, shipping costs more obviously, the Chinese steal proprietary info, etc. However, old Bob is trying to make a living and no doubt employes a bunch of Americans. I would guess that ole' Bob would love to source it here, but can't/won't be compe***ive because guys won't pay for it.
     
  13. gimpyshotrods
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    Buy from a privately owned American company, that manufactures in the United States.

    Now can the politics, and let's get back to building cars.
     
  14. wanabe28
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    I import car hoists into Australia from China, we couldn't even buy the steel here for what we pay for a completed unit, and we sell them the iron ore to manufacture the steel. But like most things that are made there, you can buy really cheap, cheap, better, resonable and best quality, you just have to do your homework (and lots of it). We are looking at compressors, there are 350 compressor manufactures in China, 300 of them you can disregard off the bat, but trying to work out quality, price, where you want them shipped from is still a huge amount of work.
    In probably 10 years time there will be a H.A.M.B post, Bob Drake, Made in India.
     
  15. Bill Van Dyke
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    We've got the raw materials but we sell them to China and buy them back as finished products. Why? Because it costs too much to make them here. The only variable in the equation is the cost of labor! There's greed in the good 'ol USA but it's not necessarily at the upper corporate level. This might piss some off but the bottom line is when they get unionized in China, USA made stuff will be compe***ive again.
     
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  17. 1971BB427
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    WHAT???? Harley Davidsons made in PA.!!! What happened to the pride of Milwaukie???? How dare they???? Why that's almost as bad as China!!!!! ;)
    What's the world coming to? Next thing they'll be making them in KC, Mo.!! :)
     
  18. c-10 simplex
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    1) If a factory in a rural OR heavily populated area decides to pay $8per hr and hour they're not going to be able to fill the positions?

    a) serve lunch and make the working environment good---it's not that hard.

    b) Maintain quality while maintaining profitability(the $8per hr helps) and hopefully everyone buys from you. Of course maybe part of the problem is no one gives a ****----this is a "throwaway society." So, no one gives a **** that everything is made in china?

    c) If you've got a family, then $8 isn't going to cut it. However, a single person could, i think, make out good with $8/hr/free lunch provided s/he scales his/her lifestyle accordingly----i.e., walk to work/don't need a high dollar car, lower rent etc.

    d) i saw the do***entary concerning corvette zr-1. Does the ***embly line position of installing the wheels really require paying $25 per hour? What i'm getting at is yes the american worker is greedy wanting to buy boats, fancy 4 door diesel pickups etc. because they see the other guy doing it.

    The solution in d is to simply pay less while implementing strategies of a, b, and c. The worker is simply going to have to understand and accept that he can't have all the toys and junk and primo benefits on a job that doesn't really require that much training or education. i know----a virtual impossibility.
     
  19. Larry W
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    It isn't the lack of material, or technology,or equipment. You just can't produce a compe***ive product using high labor costs. The people that built the company,have a right to see a return on their money. If not why don't more workers start there own companys. Lord knows there's a need out there. I hate off shore **** too.
     
  20. 53sled
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    a) big fat tariffs on every boat in the harbor.
    b) no more too big to fail corporate subsidies. if you truly believe in a free market, then let all the bankers hang.
     
  21. SakowskiMotors
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    Read the book "'a year without china"
     
  22. 1950ChevySuburban
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    Bob Drake does everything he can to make it in the USA. Cut him some slack there.
     
  23. SakowskiMotors
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    We are at war right now with China. WWIII
    They know it and are kicking our ****s.
    Americans wan't to deny it as long as they have their big screen tv.
    The only way to win is to sacrifice financially the way people did in WWI and WWII
    Anything less will mean certain defeat.

    A year without china is a good book.
     
  24. I think you have to cut Bob Drake some slack. I am sure we would have a lot less reproduction parts if they couldn't be made off shore. Whether that is good or bad, I will let you decide. We used to bash Japanese products, until the quality was on par with the US goods. Anyone remember the Argentina repo parts. Now there was some really crude stuff. Unfortunately, the capitalist system is all about buying low and selling high. It's the American way. Well, unfortunately, you can buy low offshore. This will never stop as there are lots of people around the world that will work for nothing just to have a job. I always try to buy Canadian for my food goods. The only apples I saw in Vancouver, BC were Washington apples, even though BC is known for its apple orchards. I always used to buy Money's brand mushrooms because they were produced in BC. Even paid lots more to buy them. Now they say made in China on them. Can't win. You could however build a car using used American parts and rebuild them yourself, maybe????????
     
  25. ditto everything above, thanks
     
  26. rockfish
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    Wow, what ********. Everything made by seven year olds???? I don't pretend to know anything about you but you obviously have never been to China, much less a manufacturing plant there.

    They have so many state of the art mfg plants it's crazy. There are still older plants too, but if that's your idea of industry in China today you are very wrong. There are operations there that would rival the Ford Rouge River compound back in it's heyday.

    Chinese quality is as good as the customer wants to pay for. Unfortunately China has the ability to manufacture just as well and in some cases (such as extremely large castings) even better than the U.S. I'm not happy to say it but it's true.

    Also, anyone who wants to play the communist/Chi Comm ******** card is wasting their time. The government is communist but the workers now view themselves as capitalists. Sadly as we move more towards so******m we are the ones killing capitalism.

    I love to buy American whenever I can, but way too many major U.S. Companies source from China. All the automakers, Harley (quite a bit), Master Lock, Caterpillar and on and on it goes.

    It's an overused phrase but it really is a global economy. To believe otherwise is just wrong.

    That's really the way it is. Period.
     
  27. hotrod40coupe
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    Give Bob a break. He is one of the few that supplies the parts we need and they are quality products. I have had long talks with Bob and his primary concern is Quality. Part of the problem here is government regulations that factor into the cost of manufacturing. You can thank OSHA, EPA and any number of organizations that tie the hands of American companies. It's NOT just the cost of labor that causes the problem but rather the regulations here that that drive the manufacturing off shore.
     
  28. bustedwrench
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    amen!!
     
  29. JeffB2
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    Wait till the Chinese labor rates catch up,there was a time "made in Japan" was junk stuff,that changed and so did quality and costs.Wait till we get "Made in Haiti" junk next as corporations look for the next cheap labor pool.
     
  30. skywolf
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    Boycott The H.A.M.B. !!!!!!


    Refuse to discuss traditional hotrodding with your Chinese-made computer.
     
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