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Bolt on Rear ends on stock frames Chassis Engineering etc.

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Brooding Swede, Jan 27, 2004.

  1. Brooding Swede
    Joined: Feb 5, 2003
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    Has anyone every used this brand? I know there are others out there. They all cost about the same. I'm looking for parallel spring set up for my ford '35 truck. What are some of the in's and out's when installing a set up like this? Thanks
     
  2. Max Gearhead
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    I used one of their kits on a 46 Ford and it's a very nice setup with good instructions. Very easy install. Max
     
  3. Brooding Swede
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    Thanks. Did you have the body off?
     
  4. enjenjo
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    They can be installed with the body on no problem. I actually like Posie's setup better, it has a nicer ride.
     
  5. Flatdog
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    I have a chassis engineering setup in my 34 coupe I like it.
     
  6. FONZI
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    Chassis Engineering has good stuff.

    FONZI
     
  7. Max Gearhead
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    Body on with no problems. Max
     
  8. i've used several chassis Engineering rear kits for 35-40 fords. with the body off it's real easy....with the body on it gets a little hard to drill out the rivets for the front mounts, i have just welded them on...either way it's a great kit. depending on how you want it to sit, you probabilly should get their lowering blocks too

    TCI makes a good kit too..uses the same springs as CE.
     
  9. phat rat
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    If you want it too sit on the ground see if they offer a low ride option for your truck. I have that plus 2" blocks on my 41 cpe.
     
  10. FLAT-TOP BOB
    Joined: Aug 19, 2002
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    i used ce stuff on the rear of my 47 ford coupe. very easy to put on and worked great. i also used the sway bar kit they sell too. it's well worth the price!
     
  11. CruZer
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    I installed a CE setup under my '40 Ford coupe using a '57 Chevy rear and it was easy. They have very good instructions. Oh, and the body was on the car.
     
  12. bdrake
    Joined: Jun 28, 2002
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    I have a Chassis Engineering Kit in my '37 truck, rear suspension, front suspension, motor/trans mount and split wishbone kit. The rear end kit is pretty straight forward and fits pretty good. It doesn't sit as low as I would like' I have 1 1/2 inch temporary lowering blocks in right now and looks like I may need to double that.

    I installed the kit on a bare frame from th cab back so I didn't have any problems then. When I installed the running boards and rear fender I did have a couple of small clearance problems. The running board would fit put would sit right ontop of the front bracket. Trimming a small amount off the running board here fixed the problem, this is on the lip that bolts to the frame.

    Second problem area was the rear fenders at the inside bottom rear. Mine are glass for reference. I needed to trim the fender around the rear bracket for it to fit flush against the bed side.

    You can see my install on my web page,
    http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~bill/1937pu/
     
  13. Roothawg
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    Mr. Drake, you have quite a useful website. I have a 36 Ford pickup I built back in the early 80's that I am fixing to give a facelift. Your site will be quite useful. Nice truck by the way.

    Root
     
  14. Roothawg
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    No offense intended here......... but the CE kit really looks cumbersome and oversized for what it is designed to do. I think I may build my own brackets that would be flush with the edges of the frame.
     
  15. Brooding Swede
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    Hey all Thanks. Great tips CE must have a good product.

    enjenjo: Why did you like the posie set up better? My front end is posie? Should i get the posie rear. Is the ride bettter?

    bdrake: MAN your Web site kicks ass thats great and alot of help.

    You guys need to check it out!

    Should I go with the CE or the Posie rear????

    Thats the question now????
    If i went with Posie rear end kit would I have to add the lowering blocks?

    I going to use a 77 chevy NOVA rearend ? Good or Bad idea?

    Thanks all of you!!!!! [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  16. Brooding Swede
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    Roothawg: I do agree with you about the oversized hang over on the rear of the frame. It does look a little wierd.

    I agree the site is great.

    Who's used the Posie before?
     
  17. I put the S.A.C. bolt in kit in my 46, sets the rear down about 3 inches lower than the CE kit. the rear shackle goes through the framerail. They make one for the 35-40 frame too. The website doesn't have individual components, only satge 1-4 chassis, but you can see how they work.

    SAC Hot Rod
     
  18. HotRodMicky
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    If you want it low, there is Weedetr (spelling?)
    they mount the spring inside the frame.no need for lowering blocks.
    They have a web-site.

    Michael
     
  19. Brooding Swede
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    4t64rd: Hey thanks what did you mean? "the rear shackle goes through the framerail. " does it go in the frame channel? Thanks, BS
     
  20. bdrake
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    Thanks for the good words on my site guys. I'm trying to get it updated now with the modified S10 seat and different hood treatments. I'm also building a rolled pan for the rear so it hides everything.

    The rear kit I used was the one for bolt-in Chevy Nova rearend. That would be like 1968 to 1972? or 1967-69 Camaro. The later Nova used a wider rear if I remember right. I forgot I had already removed my perches from the rear as it was planned for a different project in the past so I don't really now if it would bolt right in. You may want to check if one of the other rear options bring the rear hangers in back under the frame. A friend has a CE kit on his truck but the brackets are different, it is also an older kit so it may have been redesigned before I bought mine.
     
  21. Brooding Swede
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    HotrodMicky: Have you ever used the kit? I looked at on the web site it does look good it's under the new products section. But the one they showed looks the be for the boxed frames weld in. thanks, BS
     
  22. CrazyDaddy
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    Weedetr makes kits for weld-in or bolt-on, your choice. I planned on using their stuff on my '40, they have a better ride than CE IMO, but didn't know about Posie's. I'll have to check them out.
     
  23. Roothawg
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    Posies has a website but they don't show it on the online catalog. I emailed em asking for a catalog and had a response in 15 minutes. Pretty impressive. Now to wait for the catalog and see what they have to offer.
     
  24. visor
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    I looked at both the C.E. and the kit that
    Pete and Jake (Jerry Slover) sells for my 40 coupe.
    I would agree that the C.E. kit is just a little to
    beefy and overbuilt.
    I went with the P&J kit that is the Posie kit
    set up plus uses P&J shocks and brackets.
    This kits rear shackles mount through the frame rail
    after You weld in a bung. Very neat.
    The front frame spring hanger allows for different
    ride height adjustments once its bolted or welded in.
    I did not have to use any lowering blocks to get the
    height I wanted. (And its down there!)

    The Pete and Jake lower shock mounts
    that weld to the axle housing were swapped out for the u-bolt plates from a 55 chevy. (Basically the same that
    would come in the C.E. kit).

    The body was on, and really had
    no problems except a sore back and the "shit in the eyes
    deal."

    I didn't install the sway bar, and I would say its not
    necessary unless u plan on road racin vettes.
    I have put over 2000 miles on her since Sept. of last
    year and its a great ride.

    Hope this helps.
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    Central Missouri Chapter
     
  25. Roothawg
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    Any pics Visor?
     
  26. Elrusto
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    I had a CE kit under my 41 Chevy coupe. Was easy to do, but rode like hell!
     
  27. [ QUOTE ]
    4t64rd: Hey thanks what did you mean? "the rear shackle goes through the framerail. " does it go in the frame channel? Thanks, BS

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    The top bolt of the shackles in the rear have a 1-1/16" hole drilled through the fram rail, a bolt-in bracket has a length of tubing welded to it that the rubber bushings fit into. The end of the spring moves back and forth about 1/4" below the frame rail. Next time I go over to the shop I'll bring the camera and take a picture and send it to you. It wouldn't be hard to duplicate. The kit also uses Dodge truck springs, because they are the same length from the nub to each end. The front mount bolts-in and connects the framerail to the x-member. If you want, I can send you the catalog from a few years ago, prices won't be right, but it's free.
     
  28. enjenjo
    Joined: Mar 2, 2001
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    from swanton oh

    [ QUOTE ]
    I had a CE kit under my 41 Chevy coupe. Was easy to do, but rode like hell!

    [/ QUOTE ]

    And that is why I like the Posie's setup better. The CE springs are front springs for a Dodge truck, way too stiff for the rear. The Posie's rear spring is designed to be used in the rear, so has a much lower rate, ideal for the rear.
     
  29. HotRodMicky
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    No, i haven't used it yet.I like the design , cause you don't need lowering blocks. Loweing blocks are not a good choice in my opinion.Will "help"wheel hop under acceleration.........
    I 'll build my own rear paralell leaf kit under my '46
    and will use 48-52 F1 parts mounted indise the frame.
    Michael
     
  30. visor
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    from Missouri

    Hey Root......
    Sorry man no pics.
    I'll get with it one of these days.
    But you can put an eyeball on it at the H.A.M.B. drags,
    if I make it back from the salt. [​IMG]
    Mike
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    "OPOSSUM BENDERS"
    Central Missouri Chapter
     

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