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Boss hired a new guy who apparently has EXPERT knowledge of auto mechanics...

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Buzznut, Jul 22, 2011.

  1. KRB52
    Joined: Jul 9, 2011
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    I work with a guy like that at my morning job. Self-proclaimed world's expert on everything. He recently screwed up a customer's lawn tractor by hoisting it up by the draw bar on the rear and filling the cylinder with oil. When the mechanic came in, the solenoid for the starter was toast from him (and the boss) trying to start it. The mechanic took out the spark plugs, jumpered the solenoid with a screwdriver and several ounces of oil shot out of the plug holes. Everything he touches in the back room seems to turn to dung. Topper is, he has his own "handyman" business on the side. I would love to see some of those completed jobs.
     
  2. David Chandler
    Joined: Jan 27, 2007
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    If nothing else, he can be a bad example.
     
  3. What gets me are the guys that have their ASE certs, work successfully on new cars, but when confronted with a simple battery drain on their personal ride, have no idea how to diagnose it at all.

    True, 'working' on new cars is mostly following the computer's idea on which part to change. And none of those parts have any rust on them, because the car is new(ish).

    Cosmo
     
  4. 29pu
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    i work at a mack dealership.about 15 years ago they hire this winner.the next bay over he has the rear of a truck jacked up and is hand spinning a set of wheels.so being a nice guy i go over to see if he needed help.he says i don`t know what this is proving.i says what.he says the boss told me the customer whats the rear wheels rotated.i says ok then.same guy had a 69 camreo with a holley checking fuel bowl level with a lighter to see the fuel level.
     
  5. tfeverfred
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    I wish I had a dollar for all the experts at my highschool ,back in the day, who put 750 double pumper Holleys on their stock small block engines. Sad thing is some folks still do it!
     
  6. BERNIES WELDING
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    when i was welding at long beach naval ship yard we had to have firewatches ***igned to us to make sure nothing caught fire when we were cutting and welding. well the last words a welder says when we strike an arc is" WATCH THE ARC" well every once in a while a real brillant firewatch wound up at medical with severe flash burns in their eyes. and when asked how it happened they told the medics, WELL THE WELDER SAID WATCH THE ARC.
     
  7. Met a guy today who bought a 57 Belair out of California. His professional auto appraiser told him the 327 in it was the factory original. I told him his appraiser didn't know jack ****.....
     
  8. ScottV
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    Ran it in Pro Stock for a while but the damn nitro got too expensive !!! (I actually had a guy tell me this ! :rolleyes: )
     
  9. cavemag
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    Whats up with people telling me I should run a 350 when ever I bring up a Mopar big block. Or the disgusted look when I say I wouldn't mind a 413 wedge.
     
  10. Strange Agent
    Joined: Sep 29, 2008
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    I feel sorry for the fact you have to manage a guy like him. People who don't know much are always talking about putting big carburetors on things. I think it's a testosterone thing...
     
  11. coilover
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    In the early 60's I earned my college money by building and maintaining a sprint car for a well off local business man. Hallibrand, Hilborne, Vertex, CAE, tire stagger, etc., were part of my everyday work and language. In the winter I hired on at a car care center at the same time as a blow hard. I don't like coffee and don't give a damn about your kids, lawn, or vacation but DO care about making things run as well as possible. The other guy, who didn't know jack ****, spent both coffee breaks and lunch break smoozing with the owner so I was informed he would be in command of the shop. As I was packing up my tools I told the owner, "Do not call me when he learned the truth". In less than two weeks the phone was ringing and a much sweetened deal was offered but it was too late. I hope the owner learned a lesson on paying attention to what was happening and delegating ******** to it's proper place.
     
  12. Didn't the 1969 302 Z28s have a 750 Holley? I personally don't buy into the formulas out there for CFM. RPM X CID divided by 3456 just does not work on most cars for performance. I run an 800 CFM carb on a 1968 non ported Pontiac 400 and it does mid 12s, 0-60 ft in 1.6 seconds and actually could stand for an 850. With the formula above, thats for 100% volumetric efficiency which no street car has so they say subtract another 10% Hmmmm Funny how I ran a 650 then a 750 and now an 800 and my times just keep getting faster. The Formula says I should be running about 700 cfm. Not that I agree with the guy going up to 850 but I also personally don't care much for the 625. I'm ***uming its a Carter. I ran one of those on a 350 and then installed a 650 Holley Spreadbore dp and people thought I changed the engine with bigger cubes, it felt alot stronger.
     
  13. OahuEli
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    Ask the guy if he knows the best way to troubleshoot digital muffler bearings. I bet he knows. :rolleyes:
     
  14. gimpyshotrods
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    What the heck is a camero?
     
  15. Buzznut
    Joined: May 9, 2008
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    I've tried a 750 Holly and runs like garbage...850 would kill it and 1000 I'd probably burn through a few piston tops really quick. Low quench area and lean fuel mix is a recipe for disaster.

    I work at an Auto and RV dealership. Just this last Tuesday a customer was asking him how to wire their four 6 volt deep cycle batteries and he told them to just wire them positive to negative all the way around (which is in series, which is wrong because that would make 24 volts).... I'm freaking glad I caught that one and corrected it with the customer or we would have had to not only replace $600 worth of batteries, we would have had to replace just about every 12 volt component in the RV, including a $1,200 12v/110 television and a $400 logic board on a 12v/110/propane refrigerator. I'm sure he's going to create headaches and damage, but I do***ent everything that I do, and I make them do the same, so his own emails/records will eventually hang him...if it comes to that.
     
  16. mysteryman
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    i guess whats worse than the want to be experts we are all commenting about, is the fact that after one conversation we see through there bull.but someone in the company you are trusting to provide you a income is falling for there bull, what does this say for the people hiring them(our bosses)
     
  17. Yeah, if you shave a set of camel hump heads they become camel bump heads, but my favorite are the prized camel toe heads..I look for them at swap meets, and often find them, some can be bought but most are just for display...;)
     
  18. theHIGHLANDER
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    C'mon guys, you love this ****! I have a guy that I wish I had 5 more just like him, yet he tells me how he shifts his car at "8-5" every time (8500RPM). Even though it raises the hair on the back of my neck to hear it I know he feels good tellin me. Works hard, he's all in, but he loves to impress. We did have a conversation of what it really takes to spin that fast and live and I never really baited him on it. Some just gotta be "that guy" once in a while.

    On the other hand, had a guy (kid) who had 3 whole years and spent over $30K for a Wyotech education. I told him he can forget most of it with the exception of how to work the tools once he strated. It didn't take long to see what he was about. Typical know-it-all-D student-wannabe. In a few months came the "who does he think he is..." (reference to me) and the rate of failure was getting to high and too often. Last chance, "Did they teach you read a print?" "Yep." Here kid, build this. you got 2hrs for 2 parts. I could build em myself in 40mins." "Ok, I got this..." 2 1/2 hrs later, "Jeez kid what's the problem? It's a one to one print!" "What does that mean?" "Uh, this is actual size...? You said you could read a print. If you can't I'd be glad to help. Why are the holes so small?" (print called out a .137 hole) "We didn't have a 1/37th drill so I drilled it 1/32nd." "Go clean the restroom..."

    I had another pro come in who drilled the lock out of an OEM locking gas cap for a 41 Lincoln. Funny thing is there's a locksmith within walking distance to the shop and woulda picked it and made us a key for maybe $20 or so. I won't get started on the finishers that have been there. I think most of em crossed over from the drywall industry. Good luck to ya and try to make the best of it. Don't make it a contest and you'll be fine.


    BTW, yes the Z28s had 750 Holleys. They also had 11.0:1 pistons and solid lifter cams that liked 7000+RPM. I'm guessin the 327 in the OPs car probably isn't set up for that life or he'd have the size that works. Racing carb size, usually 100cfm over the common formula is perfect then jet to taste. Street/mild hotrod, the bigger of what the formula equates, as in if it's 605 you can go 625 or even 650 and jet to taste. It ain't rocket science...unless it's an Olds:cool:
     
  19. haychrishay
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    Ditto it Dirty4 and Wingnutz
     
  20. seabeecmc
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    It is so disconcerting to know that you know it all and then have to deal with another who knows that he also knows all that there is to know.
    Perhaps Gene Hackman's character said it best in "Mississippi Burning". "If you ain't better than a ******, son, who are you better than? .................Ron
     
  21. aaggie
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    Size sometimes matters but they have a saying at the volunteer fire house, "it doesn't matter how big the hose is as long as you can put out the fire".
     
  22. Nocero
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    Found this on another forum works for me


    This is a real quick and dirty formula for figuring carburetor CFM requirements for a street engine. This "Ballpark" method is very useful at the swap meet, parts store, or when impressing friends and family.

    Take the engine displacement and multiply by 2. Then subtract 15% from the total. For a little healthier engine, subtract only 5%.

    This a real ball park formula. For a more accurate calculation, see the Carburetor Sizing Calculator. But, this is still a good formula for general sizing purposes.

    d = Displacement in Cubic Inches. (d x 2) - 15% = CFM

    EXAMPLE: d = 350 (350 X 2) = 700 (700 - 15%) = 595 CFM
     
  23. And a 69-70 Boss 302 Mustang came with a 780 cfm Holley.
    I don't totally buy into the CFM charts either.
     
  24. 1950ChevySuburban
    Joined: Dec 20, 2006
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    Nobody suggested showing him the ropes and teaching him things? Geez....

    I'm an ASE Master tech with L1 and still learn new things every day.
    I'll bet he knows things you don't as well. You two need to get together and both come out ahead.
     
  25. DE SOTO
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    I read the Whole thing & to me, The majority of the posters (not all) sound just like the guy your Whinning about.

    Just because you are a HAMB Member don't mean your are an Automotive Expert.
     
  26. Cantstop
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    thats the funniest thing ive heard all day.....gotta use that one
     
  27. Master of None
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    +1 as frustrating as some people can be, don't be the guy that is the "automotive expert" to your boss. After all he or she is YOUR boss.
     
  28. brian55lvr
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    yes---but what color are the powerbands?
     
  29. I used to have a friend that was a pros***ute and I can say beyond a shadow of a doubt that she knew ****. I wouldn't let her tune my bike though.

    I know that was just wrong but I haven't really had a chance to get under your skin yet. Well at least not on purpose.:D:D:D

    I understand where you are coming from. Sad but true most of those experts eventually go into business for themselves. We see it all the time on this board don't we.

    I wish there was something that I could tell you that would make your life easier. maybe you will find out that the fella is trainable and with a little guidance from his manager he can become a fair mechanic. That is probably not the case but you may get lucky.

    This is not going to help much but Wilbur always says this:

    There are those that know not and know not that they know not. They are ignorant, avoid them.

    There are those that know not and know that they know that they know not. They are trainable, teach them.

    There are those that know and know not that they know. They are asleep, awaken them.

    And there are those that know and know that they know. They are leaders follow them.

    Pretty thin line between the first guy and the last guy isn't it. Looks like you are stuck with the first guy. But you may get lucky and find out that he is actually the second guy.

    Anyway like I said not much help. I hope it works out for you.
     
  30. Scarebird
    Joined: Sep 26, 2006
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    Sometimes it's scary how little we know about things we consider mastered.
     

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