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Boss hired a new guy who apparently has EXPERT knowledge of auto mechanics...

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Buzznut, Jul 22, 2011.

  1. DE SOTO
    Joined: Jan 20, 2006
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    DE SOTO
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    May I ask what you mean by this ?

    I have never considered myself as a Master at anything ...

    I just know what I read and it seams there are a Bunch of Experts and some think If you are on the HAMB .... You are above everyone Else
     
  2. Not all of us think that much of ourselves. Some of us give out information as we know it and expect the reader to shuffle though it to glean what they can from it.

    Personaly just to make it clear on my part to anyone concerned, I am the least important person that you know.

    S.A.

    As someone who personally knows someone who knows **** (see my previous post) let me tell you something. Bigger is not always better, size no doubt is part of the equation but a mastery of use is always your best bet in any situation. You never need more than you can use.
     
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  3. Scarebird
    Joined: Sep 26, 2006
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    Scarebird
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    from Moita, PT

    I was a tinknocker for better part of 20 years - even placed in a few national apprentice contests. I see some of the work here and am humbled.
     
  4. gimpyshotrods
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    I don't know what I don't know. Rarely a day goes by that the Universe does not show me a little more of the big picture, shaking the confidence that I have in that I really do fully understand anything. I am always happy to share what has worked for me, and what has NOT worked for me. Not everyone really needs to make the same expensive mistakes that I have. I'm not an expert in anything, but I am trying to move in that direction, a little, every day.
     
  5. DE SOTO
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    DE SOTO
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    I hear ya, SOME here are incredible Craftsman.

    But on the same Note, Some work I see here and I am appalled.

    All i was gettin at was, Here is a guy downing another for what he feels
    is Correct & a mess of others jumping on the wagon to bust his balls.

    I will bust Balls with the Best of them, But I am nobody here anyway.

    Thats it ... Just cus the guy says an 850 on S/B Chevy is the way to go dont mean hes a No Nuthin .... I know plenty of street racers from back in the 70s 80s 90s that would say it IS the way to go.

    I dunno, The only car I have with 1 carb is my 6cyl 223 '55 Ford & a '65 Chevy with a 283 ......

    What do I know about His 350 ?? Nuthin !
     
  6. falcongeorge
    Joined: Aug 26, 2010
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    falcongeorge
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    Anyone who can put a stock 305 into the 11's without spray is an expert in my books...
     
  7. Bad Bob
    Joined: Jan 25, 2006
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    from O.C. Baby

    I work for this refridgeration shop after HS and we had this kid with a '79 Corolla,traction bars,Hurst shifter,header,and a 4barrel,that he swore ran in the 9's! I had a '67 VW that was high 11/low 12sec car. After work one day,the guys had pissed him off so bad we finally raced. The bet was $100 plus he had to clean the shop for a week.
    We lined up on Downey Rd,in Vernon. The guys climbed into one of the service vans and witnessed. Pulled the front wheels,hit second and already had about 3 cars on him. Hit 3rd and couldn't see him! He never shot his mouth off again,haha!

    He was one of the "EXPERTS" too. He was saving for one of those new 1980, 10sec Trans Ams! This thread brings back fond memories....
     
  8. seabeecmc
    Joined: Jan 28, 2005
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    A collection of self important experts claiming to be more expert than other proclaimed experts.
    Ego driven show of I'm smarter than a dumb guy?
     
  9. wombat barf
    Joined: May 1, 2011
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    wombat barf
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    from oklahoma

    my 21 year old daughter owns an '85 Dodge 1/2 ton.

    she recently started dating a .....~*mechanic*~..... He went out of his way to brag about a '76 Dodge 1/2 ton he had owned for a number of years and that he had 'rebuilt from one end to the other'.

    my daughter called from work a while back and said that her Dodge would almost start but not quite. MOPAR guys know that such a condition is often attributable to the ballast resistor. since I couldn't get away from work I told her to have her boyfriend swap out the ballast resistor and see if that did the trick.

    a few minutes later my phone rings and it's the boyfriend asking me what a ballast resistor was............alrighty then.........

    should I mention that he says his uncle owns a '63 Camaro? it's a prototype.
     
  10. falcongeorge
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    falcongeorge
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    from BC

    sums it up nicely...
     
  11. Truckedup
    Joined: Jul 25, 2006
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    I believe is was a 780 cfm.Now how can that be,a 302 with a factory installled 780 that's way to big for a 327?
    The big carb on the 302 was sized for hi rpm racing,right? So a hi rpm radical 327 would be ok ,as much as any radical engine is ok,with a big carb.
    Guys here are always talking about running tunnel ram on the street,often a SBC with 1000 cfm worth of carbs. So why aren't those guys stupid???
    My own feeling is a smaller carburetor is better for street driving..........
     
  12. Who is the expert on experts? :D
     
  13. jipp
    Joined: Jun 20, 2011
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    i know my limits in what i know.. and its very little.. thankfully the internet is here for me to learn. with out it i could of never done half the stuff iv done over the years in lots of different hobbies. one thing iv learn from hobbie to hobbie.. humans never change. live and learn. rock on.
    chris.
     
  14. 24 Dodge
    Joined: May 2, 2010
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    an expert is - ex is a has been and a spert is a drip under pressure.

    that's what I was told. ha ha
     
  15. Buzznut
    Joined: May 9, 2008
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    That was just an example showing what our very first conversation was. If he asked qualifying questions about what kind of intake, pistons, compression, cam, etc... and THEN gave me his "opinion" I would have gven him a little credit for thinking it through, but what he did instead was make a blanket statement about all 327's running camel "bump" heads. The guy is a story teller...he's apparently done everything there is to do and is always telling stories. He's 26 and he brags like he's been around for 50 years. Of course, most 50 year old TRUE hot rodders have learned that bragging is a sure sign of an idiot. This kid is green and wants to be top dog and impress everyone. I mean, just yesterday he's telling me and a customer that the NP205 is a weak transfer case for goodness sake, when it's likely the best one ever manufactured...not just my opinion, but general consensus in the 4X4 world. I can recognize a poser when I see one, and this kid is one for sure.

    As far as your opinions about 327's with 850 cfm or (even better) 1000 carbs, try running one daily on the street and see what happens...
     
  16. RichFox
    Joined: Dec 3, 2006
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    Carburetor size. Lets start by admitting I'm no expert, but I do know everything. On my 312 cubic inch GMC 6 cylinder engine I ran 3 500cfm Holleys. Since I'm not an expert I don't know how that would compare to 4bbl. Holleys. But it ran good. At Bonneville. On my street driven 383 SBC car I have a 625 or 650, whatever they are AFB. It also runs good. Back to all the ways you can skin cats. The AFB was awful out of the box. I thought it would be great. Little time with rods and jets and now it is. Oh yeah, I had a 292 CID GMC 6 that I ran with a 780 and later with an 800 double pumper. Ran great. Once it cleaned out and started to run. Be about 3 blocks if I was driving it on the street. Maybe not the best.
     
  17. Strange Agent
    Joined: Sep 29, 2008
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    Would it be possible for you to talk to the boss about this guy?
     
  18. rld14
    Joined: Mar 30, 2011
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    Funny this thread came up...

    Just had one of my new salesmen tell me that he had a V6 Mustang instead of a V8 because "Consumer reports said the V6 was better".

    I called him a fool :)
     
  19. Buzznut
    Joined: May 9, 2008
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    I'm going to let him hang himself... I've always found that to be the best tactic. The harsh reality of the nature of the RV business is that once you have a parts and procurement manager that knows not only how and where to get parts right away, but also at the best prices, and is willing to actually put their neck out there, the business runs more smoothly and no one wants to rock the boat. I COULD just campaign for his early release, but it would ultimately make me look bad in the eyes of the owner. I'm not saying that I'm irreplaceable...no one is. And I'm not an expert either...I need help or insight locating certain parts and supplies that I've never dealt with before, but I ultimately get the job done with minimal h***le, and very little loss, if any at all, and overall the dept. is running at a 5% less expenditure and 7% net profit gain since I took over. I'll let my performance stand for itself, and as long as he follows my lead and isn't insubordinate I'll give him a fair chance, but if the mistakes keep piling up and the storytelling cuts into production, I will make my recommendation. I just hope he wises up soon...
     
  20. 15ASedan
    Joined: Mar 16, 2010
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    Ask him if you can borrow his metric crescent wrench
     
  21. Deuces
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    Deuces

    No comment! :rolleyes:
     
  22. Deuces
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    Deuces

    Took me 30+ years to become one.. :rolleyes: And I still have a lot to learn.. :(
     
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  23. BELLM
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    Hopefully the guy will learn to keep his mouth shut and his eyes and ears open. I'm an old guy, every day I learn something, every time I'm on the HAMB I learn several somethings, the more I learn the more I realize how little I REALLY do know, I learned at least one thing from the stupidest person I ever met in my life that I still use several times a week and has that has saved me a ton of money.
    As far as the term "camel hump" heads even back in the '60s the 1.94 and the 2.02 heads were casually called camel hump heads, fuel injection heads etc., me being th dumb*** that I am I still call them that. First 2.02 heads I ever had were on a bone stock factory'65 Nova SS with a 300hp 327, Muncie 4spd, posi rear, from the factory. There was a 350 horse 327, I think in '66, had a hydraulic lifter hipo cam, 780, aluminum intake. I put one of these cams, a Weiand aluminum intake, 780 Holley on the 300hp motor ( gas was around 20 cents a gallon then) and immediately started breaking timing chains and bending all 8 intake valves, on a regular basis. This was around '68 or so. I was in college, working full time as a line mechanic at a Chevy dealer, one day I was working on a big heavy duty truck and was in the truck section of the parts book, found the heavy duty truck double row roller timing chain set, like the ones everyone use now but then they were only used on the big trucks, I bought one & never broke a timing chain after that. I know the latter part of this doesn't relate to your post but old guys are allowed to mindlessly ramble.
     
  24. Buzznut
    Joined: May 9, 2008
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    Yes they are, ramble on...

    By the way, he was calling them camel Bump heads. I've always called them 202's or camel humps interchangeably, but I think most people know that they aren't Bump heads.
     
  25. mysteryman
    Joined: Apr 20, 2011
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    from atlanta

    i also worked with a guy that had a maverick with a 4spd with a 3500 stall converter.he took it to atlanta motor speedway.got on track p***ed the pacecar and the ga. statepatrol chased him around the track but couldnt catch him
     
  26. 61 chevy
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    61 chevy
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    maybe you should fire your boss, ha,ha
     
  27. BERNIES WELDING
    Joined: Mar 31, 2011
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    when i was in the navy we had a fng boot camper come into the divison and he was ***igned to where i worked and one day he picked up an adjustable wrench, and asked why dose it have millimeters marked on one side and fractions on the other side. one of the other guys told him it was a multi sized wrench, if you use it with the meteric side up it only fit meteric sized bolts and nuts, and it you use it with the fractional side up it only fit fractional size nuts and bolts. he then asked how do you know if the size is meteric or fractional.

    well we had a lot of fun with that one for quite a while.

    it made the time p*** out at sea............
     
  28. Peter Mc Mahon
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    from Ontario

    I am sure no expert but I would think if your turning hi rpms, a 625 would be undercarbed.
     
  29. Truckedup
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    Who knows...how about the 283's with factory two four barrels ? that's 390 cfm each on those WCFB's.Like the 780 cfm carbed 302 Z-28,Chevy sold a lot of them.And the Z-28's even had to p*** the early emission standards.
    Of course the OP story is about a guy who ********s about everything.
     
  30. Buzznut
    Joined: May 9, 2008
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    I'm not circle track racing this thing, I'm driving it around town. the point is that this guy just knee jerked that I needed an 850 or better a 1000 without asking one damned question about my engine or my application.

    That's kind of like saying all 454's run best on high octane fuel...
     

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