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Technical Boxing a frame?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Hemi Joel, Apr 10, 2022.

  1. I like smart people
     
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  2. It’s all random thoughts that rattle in my head.
    We built a boxed ch***is for a 33. It smacked a tree. Being boxed and with a DOM tube X member in the center, it wasn’t feasible to repair it. The boxing on one side and half tbe X bracing would have needed cut out. The same hit on a non boxed frame with rivited X bracing would have been repairable. However, would that type of ch***is handle the big block and stick that was in that 33?
    Kinda like the difference between fixing a modern fully welded ch***is vs an older ch***is.
    How much extra bracing/boxing does the average low to mid 300hp street car need?
    That’s kinda what I wonder

    Aesthetic wise,I dig a step boxed rail with holes. Extra point for dimple dies being used.

    How much strength does the dimple die add:)
     
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  3. 05snopro440
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    The dimple die adds no strength. It adds stiffness.... and cool points. :p
     
  4. arse_sidewards
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    from Central MA

    How important is it that I get complete weld penetration to the very core of the "thick tapered part" of structural channels and beams?
     
  5. 05snopro440
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    I'm not following your description, but full weld penetration of what you're welding is very important.
     
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  6. My goofy thought for painting the inside would be use a wand attachment to shoot the inside with epoxy.
    We used that for cavity wax. Should work for epoxy
     
  7. 05snopro440
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    As far as protecting the inside of a frame, it's best to plan ahead when boxing.

    Eastwood (and others) have you covered with products like this: https://www.eastwood.com/eastwood-internal-frame-coating-14oz-aerosol.html

    Weld-through primer on areas to be welded helps to make sure you won't have any unprotected spots in the frame, and you can also pre-paint areas of the frame and inside of boxing plates that are away from the weld zones for protection.

    The boxing plates you describe have been available for 10+ years for many common applications, such as these from Wolfes: https://www.wolfesmetalfabrication.com/boxingplates.html

    I got the solid ones from Wolfes for my Model A because I won't know the placement of my crossmembers until after the frame is boxed. I also like their Easy Weld design which allows a nice fillet weld.

    There's also a couple of hot rod parts companies that sell weld-in oval access doors for boxed frames. This is one example, can't find the other one I remember: Frame Access Doors – York Speed Shop
     
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