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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by dosswallace, Mar 19, 2010.

  1. dosswallace
    Joined: Sep 21, 2006
    Posts: 23

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    I have posted this question once a long time ago. Most of the response I received were from some stand-up comic wannabes. I really would appreciate some honest help. I have a 1954 Willys Aero streetrod. I have installed a crate 350, 9 bolt Chevy rear end, B/W 4 speed and a Mustang II rack and pinion. Right now I am using wheel adapters so I can run 5 lug wheels. The adapters are 4-1/2" spacing but I would really like 4-3/4" spacing. Without getting into a lot of expense does anyone know what I can do to accomplish this? I am currently running multi-lug pattern wheels but want to have more possibilities. Is it possible to get backing plates, wheel cylinders, and drums of the type I need and install these? If so, (dumb question here) how do I know what inner/outer bearings I need? Am I thinking along the right lines or is there a simpler and less expensive way to do this. The front drums are now 9". This would also give me the opportunity to go to bigger brakes. I have a couple of thousand hours in this car and am ready for paint. I sincerely appreciate any helpful comments.
    Thank You
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  2. hotrod56cars
    Joined: Apr 3, 2007
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    Buy different wheel adaptors.

    Redrill the existing hubs and drums for a different bolt pattern.

    You didn't indicate what brakes or front suspension you're running now...
     
  3. R Pope
    Joined: Jan 23, 2006
    Posts: 3,309

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    I get the impression you have a MII front end. If so, AMC Pacer hubs are Chevy 5 bolt pattern and will fit.
     
  4. Goofy thing is the stock Willys front end isn't much different from a design standpoint, from 80s-90s Mustang and T-bird, it would probably be easier to put one of those on - which comes in a 5-lug version - than to put like a mustang-II on it. I think the later Mustang unbolts from the car, I've seen where they use them to upgrade 1st gen Mustangs.

    As I read it, he has a stock front end under the car. The stock front end in these things is ridiculously weak, so weak we broke a good A-arm on mine using a winch to pull it on the truck - and it was up and rolling, it wasn't like we latched on and tried to drag it out of axle-deep mud with all 4 wheels locked up. I'd be afraid of it.

    As for interchange, you're going to have a trial and error game, you might look at older (Willys era) Jeep stuff and see if anything works. One of the smaller Jeeps used this same motor, trans and some of the brake stuff for a very short time in the mid-50s. I really think you're not going to find a simple bolt on with no mods though.
     
  5. Dynaflash_8
    Joined: Sep 24, 2008
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    from Auburn WA

    use a gm 10 bolt rear.

    easy enough. 7.5 ring gear rears are super narrow too. (think s10 pickup )
     
  6. dosswallace
    Joined: Sep 21, 2006
    Posts: 23

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    Thanks for inputs so far. Dynaflash 8, I fail to see your point in discussing the rear end. I apologize if I have misled anyone. I have the stock front end. I reversed the steering arms and installed a Mustang II rack and pinion. The brakes are existing 9". I have considered redrilling and making new lug pattern. Any further comments would be appreciated.
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