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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by rookie81, Apr 28, 2016.

  1. rookie81
    Joined: Jan 4, 2013
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    from chicago

    Hey guys what are ur thoughts on power vs no power brakes..I have disc brakes from speedway on the front of my 56 f100. I plan on putting hanging pedal basket out of 59 f100 and not sure if there is enough room for the booster and a clutch master.so have to decide which way to go
    Thanks dan
     
  2. 57 HEAP
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    Do you have power brakes now? If not, then why change?

    I have power brakes on my '57, but I feel that non-power would be just as good and look better.
     
  3. bobss396
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    I went with manual brakes for my Ford Custom. The boosters always jutted out too far for my liking and it does***** up real estate. I have a hydraulic clutch in the car too. I made up a 1/4" steel plate to hold both of them. Clutch masters can be moved laterally which may be a help. You do need the mechanical advantage to lessen the pedal effort, so it has to be up fairly high.
     
  4. el shad
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    I agree with JC.
     
  5. woodhawg
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    My OT English sports car has non****isted front discs. Work just fine and you have to actually push the pedal like old times. Not lazy driving they are selling now. Make sure you get the right diameter master cylinder to give enough pressure.
     
  6. 26 roadster
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    I always bump up the pedal ratio when I plan non****isted discs, raises the effective pressure mechanically.
     
  7. rookie81
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    Ok thanks guys I bought the kit from speedway should I get the master from them or ccp.i do not have any brakes right now just peicing the basket case back together. I put a motor and trans in from a 63 or 64 can't remember but it's 292 with 4 speed. How do I figure what size master to get.
     
  8. rookie81
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    Will the pedal****embly work with a power booster and clutch master. I don't have the pedals yet
     
  9. I have run them****isted and not****isted I like them well enough either way.
     
  10. bchctybob
    Joined: Sep 18, 2011
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    I put CPPs front disc conversion and power brake****embly in my '55 F100, works great. I'm not usually a power brake fan but I tow trailers with my '55 so I wanted the extra****urance. Unless you just have to have swinging pedals, save yourself the aggravation - the CPP stuff fits and works great right out of the box. I even kept the 5 on 5 1/2" bolt pattern.
    I took the power booster out of my Model A sedan, it was too much brake for such a light car - I liked the pedal feel of the non-powered discs much better.
    If you grew up driving Toyotas, non power disc brakes may take some getting used to.
     
  11. woodhawg
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  12. Dino 64
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    I have a non boosted on my 52 F 1 with front discs. Works fine and I also like the feel of them. Using stock pedal which are too high to use with your heal on the floor like a new car so with a booster, you would have to hold your foot above the pedal making light braking difficult.
    Did that make sense ?
     
  13. Hnstray
    Joined: Aug 23, 2009
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    The non-booster brakes can be 'boosted' with hydraulic ratio changes. Although the pedal ratio method works, so does using large caliper bores with a more modest master cylinder bore. For example, I use a Speedway disc kit on a '47 Ford several years ago. The kit contained F100/150 12" rotos and '71/'76 big GM car calipers. I used a '67/'72 Mustang master which was, as I recall, less than 1" bore. I had great pedal feel and plenty of braking power with no booster.

    Ray
     
  14. rookie81
    Joined: Jan 4, 2013
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    from chicago

    Wow thanks for all the info guys,I think I will go non boosted
     
  15. bobss396
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    I drove a '64 Ford and a '68 390 Mustang with manual brakes for years and it was fine with me. The clutch in the '64 was good for leg exercises. I went manual with the '59 brakes since I was using a big cam in the engine, plus I'm a cheap******** with some things.
     

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