Got talked into taking on another project - got a basket 1966 Norton N.15.CS. This is a US market-only bike I believe & uses the Atlas 750 engine in an AJS (?) frame. The frame looks very similar to standard 60s Triumph/BSA frames. Anyone know if there's a bolt-on or weld-on hardtail for it? I know it's a long shot at best, but figured if anyone knew, it'd be someone here. TIA
ain't no such animal ernie.why don't you go ahead and use it for the bad-*** scrambling it was built for? that's how Steve McQueen would have done it (or my dad for that matter)
Guess I'll have to fab one - 'bout what I figured. Scrambling? What's that? BSAs & Triumphs are too easy & overdone (That's 'sposed to make me feel better about doing things the hard way)
[ QUOTE ] ain't no such animal ernie.why don't you go ahead and use it for the bad-*** scrambling it was built for? that's how Steve McQueen would have done it (or my dad for that matter) [/ QUOTE ] i'm with you there....
[ QUOTE ] Scambling, read early motocross, sort of. [/ QUOTE ] Forgot to put a smiley at the end so you knew I was kidding...sarcasm jsut doesn't really work with just the words Not enuf parts to put back stock/restore - partial basket case is probably a better description...
http://www.m***bia.com/homemain.htm check out these guys both sites are cool, this site has the history of all the models i think McQueen's was a 12 , he loved the desert riding http://www.motorbyte.com/Norton/Report.html
Ernie thats a rare beast you have there,i was a member of the ajs and matchless owners club till recently.I know a guy who could build you a hardtail for it though have a word with Dennis or Geoff at D and G motorcycles in Baldock the number is 01462 790729 good luck..........Marq
Marq, Thanks for that info - I've scribbled it upon one of the many yellow sticky-notes that clutter my desk! I found a frame on eBay that looks exactly like mine (swingarm axle mounting plate is slightly different) w/o the rear section bolted on (see pic). Anyone got a pic of a similar Triumph frame that takes a bolt-on hardtail for comparison? Better yet, measurements? Having said that, it should be easy enough to fabricate a hardtail for this beast.
Just as a point of reference - here's what I'm working with. It came with a beat to **** Sporty tank, but I had this nice peanut tank. Also just layed an old BSA fender over the back tire for reference.
[ QUOTE ] why does it have to be a hardtail? [/ QUOTE ] Isn't it obvious? It's because I'm such a poser! I just like the lines better on hardtail bikes - especially when done on the Brit twins - clean & simple. Shocks just look out of place on older bikes IMWO (In My WARPED Opinion). Having said that, I've seen some suspended bikes that look good too. I've attached a pic of a custom BSA I like. Hard to tell from the pic if it's got struts or shocks, but the concept & look is the same regardless. I don't like all the extra frame hoops & extra stuff hanging off the back of the bikes aft of the seat post - that's probably why I like hardtails & suspended bikes like this BSA. FWIW, that's why the HD Softail has been so successful IMO - clean flowing lines on the frame/swingarm (looks almost rigid).
****ing hell Ernie that looks su****iously like a G15,or model 33 both very very rare even over here but if it's a 33 thats even rarer.**** man how much you pay for that ?Hardtail it?Hardtail it my **** if you get that thing right it will look real sweet and be worth money too......Marq
hey Ernie that aint no norton cs ,if you look at the subframe it has the sidecar lugs(those triangular plates)cs frames never had those the subframe also ran right from the front main frame too for strength so it looks like you really may have a G15 not a cs or csr but G15 all the same..........Marq
Marq, I got a US ***le & engine numbers that say it's a N15CS, but I don't know squat. From my very limited research over the last week or so, it appears as muddled as the hybrids were, they were muddled even moreso stateside, so I think all bets are off. I can't find any numbers on the frame (where should I look?) [ QUOTE ] Hardtail it?Hardtail it my **** [/ QUOTE ] Haha! I hear ya - that's why I want it to be a bolt-on affair. I don't think I'd ever want to put it back, but someone else might. [ QUOTE ] if you get that thing right it will look real sweet and be worth money too [/ QUOTE ] I think they look just like any other '60s bike personally. A clean custom/chopper/bobber, however, is timeless! [ QUOTE ] if you look at the subframe it has the sidecar lugs(those triangular plates) [/ QUOTE ] More ugly **** fixed with a hardtail! [ QUOTE ] that aint no norton cs cs frames never had those the subframe also ran right from the front main frame too for strength so it looks like you really may have a G15 not a cs or csr but G15 all the same [/ QUOTE ] Never can tell with the stateside stuff though...and it would appear the rear subframe is easily changed. Then again, my engine could have been swapped out too, but that doesn't explain my North Dakota ***le...That picture above is right off the Norton Owners Club website though - it appears to have those lugs. I dunno - I'm fairly ignorant about it all...more fun that way!
Marq, Not wanting to hijack the post but you don't know anything about triumph T80's by any chance 1938 or so I understand, got one in the shed looking for a barrel they don't seem to be around a whole lot........
T 80's are quite rare too,nice little bikes that are very reliable when fixed right.Ernie the frame number will be on the headstock right hand side or a bit lower on the down tube,to my knowledge a real cs norton matchless,ajs didnt have those lugs although the 60's bikes were a mish mash as they were beginning to off load parts through going broke.There are however lots of fake cs's and csr's out there but with a cs the frame goes all the way to the front.saying that who knows what they gave you yanks in the late 60's when you get the frame number we will find out.The Ajs and matchless club do a dating service which is about £25 with a certificate they can pinpiont exactly what year,engine number ,gearbox number and who test rode the bike and normally where it was delivered too........Marq
Thanks Marq - I'll have a look. My initial scan saw nothing on the headstock, but there was some very faint numbers on the upper forward engine mounting lug - didn't appear long enough to be a frame number - maybe 5 or 6 digits. I'll get some sandpaper out later & see what I find out...
i'll try and get a local bike rag and see if there are any barrels about for you.The paper to go for is called old bike Mart.I think i have some here somewhere perhaps i could put in an advert for you................Marq p.m me with what you want me to do then i can get on and do it.
Yup that will be it .Normally the matchless starts with an A for some reason the about 5 -6 numbers i would sugest that norton would be the same being owned by amc......Marq
Sweet link Marq, shame the prices are in pounds (x 3 for NZ$) some good looking stuff, will talk to my bro and let you know on the add, perhaps we can find something and pick it up when I'm over, would like to see him get the bike going again and outa my garage(might soften the blow of losing his model A parts to me for storage costs )
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