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Technical BRUSH ON PAINT.

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by TINGLER, Apr 6, 2006.

  1. TINGLER
    Joined: Nov 6, 2002
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    TINGLER

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  2. I painted this with Petit marine topside enamel with some stuff in it called brushing compound, there was a website that showed you tricks for getting a smooth surface on the upper part of your boat. I had better luck with a soft brush, the roller didn't leave enough paint on the surface to level.

    One of the tricks I used was thinning the paint with the brushing compound and testing it on a sheet of glass, keep adding the compond until the brush marks disappear in 5 seconds and you are good to go. I only mixed it up about a quart at a time, because it got sticky in about 10 minutes.

    When it's in the sun, it shines like it was sprayed, and you can only see a few brush strokes.
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    I'm sure it would work fine for a steel or fiberglass body, and it's as tough as nails, I've powersprayed this thing to get mildew and deteriorating black rubber streaks off of it, and used green scotchbrite to get the tough stuff and it's still shiny.
     
  3. 40Standard
    Joined: Jul 30, 2005
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    40Standard
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    from Indy

    Thanks for the heads up, cant see the pics becaue their bandwith is exceeded but it certainly seems like it'd be worth a shot. If you do it over old paint like he says, the all your out is $50 and a couple days of labor.
     
  4. enjenjo
    Joined: Mar 2, 2001
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    enjenjo
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    from swanton oh

    I redid a car that was brush painted in 1955 a couple years ago. I spoted in some repaired spots with black enamel, brushed on.

    Back in the 50's you could buy brushing enamel at the auto parts store, with a good brush, it went on smooth.

    If you use a slow thinner, laquer can be brushed on, color sanded and rubbed to look just like a spray job.
     
  5. Unkl Ian
    Joined: Mar 29, 2001
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    Unkl Ian

    If you do your brush strokes horizontal,on a vertical surface,
    they will flow out better.

    Foam rollers are good for covering large areas,but tend to create
    too many bubbles in the paint.If you drag a foam brush over the
    surface very lightly,it will break the bubbles and flow out smoother.
     
  6. HEATHEN
    Joined: Nov 22, 2005
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    HEATHEN
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    from SIDNEY, NY

    In high school, a friend of mine bought a Pinto for $50. We bondoed 'er up, and since his father owned an appliance store, we requisitioned some orange appliance enamel, brushed it on, and let it sit inside for a few days to harden. Believe it or not, the slow drying enamel flowed out and it didn't look bad at all. Don't turn the lights on before it's dry, though, unless you want it customized by mosquitos.
     
  7. Thirdyfivepickup
    Joined: Nov 5, 2002
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    Thirdyfivepickup
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    I'm going to buy some supplies and try this out.

    Maybe on the neighbors car.

    (but probably on some parts I have kicking around the house)
     
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  8. Clark
    Joined: Jan 14, 2001
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    The black on the front of my old RPU was done with a brush. I wanted the brushed look like they may have done back in the day.

    I always thought it was a cool idea and thought about doing a whole car that way. Well....I saw a car at the Round Up that was done and didn't like it. I loved the car. I just didn't like the paint. I'm not sure put the car was a real glossy black. I think if the black wouldn't have been so shiney it might have looked good.
    Clark
     
  9. Kevin Lee
    Joined: Nov 12, 2001
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    Kevin Lee
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    My car is brush painted shiny black. It looks really good in some spots and like hell in others - but I wouldn't expect anything else for the amount of prep work I had done. (none)

    I believe you can do a passable job with a brush - this might sound lame but I wouldn't spend too much time - I would want it to look like a decent brush job... not a poor spray job.
     
  10. oldbaldguy
    Joined: Jan 13, 2006
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    oldbaldguy
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    from Ct

    I intend to use Durabak polyurethane bedliner material to coat my ranchero. They make the stuff without the particles for a smooth finish. I will experiment on a spare fender before hand to see which application is best, brush, roller or some combo. The stuff comes in several colors and their website shows a few vehicles that have been coated on the outside. I originally painted my truck and I didn't do such a good job. I fiqured this may be the way to go. The best part is it seals the steel to eliminate rust problems and is virtually scratch resistant.
     
  11. Vance
    Joined: Jan 3, 2005
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    Vance
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    from N/A

    I had heard a long time ago that the first Model A's were painted with a brush, allowed to dry and then scrubbed with mineral spirits to smooth out the brush strokes some. Like I said, that's what I heard. Makes some sense though.

    Vance
     
  12. CAL
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    CAL
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    from Neosho Mo.

    Seems that I read somewhere, that the first Model T's were brush painted on the assembly line, or maybe I just had a flashback to when I was 6, and brush painted my Radio Flyer.
     
  13. Vance
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    Vance
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    Ok, here is a photo of the Beetle that the charger guy was talking about. If this is the typical result from his method, I foresee a sizeable run on Rustoleum gallons very soon. This is pretty incredible.


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    I'm willing to give this a shot on the floor of my coupe. if it works, I might do the whole car, who knows...
    Vance
     
  14. chromedRAT
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    old fella that showed me the basics (never got past that!) with pinstriping told me that you could cut paint like rustoleum with kerosene and it would smooth the paint when applied with a brush. his neighbor's daily driver is an ex squad car that needed to be one color and he did this to much success. this might be very relavent if the EPA makes it as hard as they'd like to for us to get paint, or so i have heard....
     
  15. Nads
    Joined: Mar 5, 2001
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    Nads
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    from Hypocrisy

    There was an Essex hot rod built back in the '70s in England that was brush painted. It was amazing, I saw it with my own two eyes and I couldn't believe it.

    I prefer to paint things by using a live chicken dipped in latex.
     
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  16. Nads
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    Nads
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    Mike what the hell is that thing above the wheel on The Pill? It looks like a rocket booster tank.
     
  17. Brad S.
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    Brad S.
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    Did anyone grab pics before the bandwidth was exceeded?
     
  18. 49 Fastback
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    49 Fastback
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    from Ohio

    I brush painted my 49 last summer. I intentionally left it with visible brushmarks in it, though. When I get it "done" (all body mods finished, engine done, etc.) then I'm going to get a "real" paint job done. Plus, right now, a decent paint job would cost me more than I paid for the car!

    IMO, I think it's definitely possible to get a good brush or roll-on job, just like you can use carbs instead of EFI...it's a matter of choosing the level of technology you want.

    Tucker
     
  19. Vance
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    Vance
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    You can right click and then choose SAVE TARGET AS to save the picture to your harddrive. Do this over the little bandwidth logo. That's how I was able to get the pone that I posted.

    Vance
     
  20. Brad S.
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    Vance
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  22. jalopy43
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    The last 2 paint jobs on my A model were done using rust o leum enamel,and a foam roller..:D
     

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  23. A Boner
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    A Boner
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    My son sprayed a Chevy pick up with NAPA acrylic enamel, using lacquer thinner instead of enamel reducer, to make it dry almost instantly, to avoid the bug & dust problems when painting outside. The paint job turned out really nice, glossy, but not high gloss. In my opinion it looked better than some of the base coat clear coat paint jobs that are too shiny to look traditional.
    I know lacquer thinner would not work (drys too fast) with a brush or roller job, but has anyone used lacquer thinner with Rust-oleum enamel in a spray job?
    Cheap paint...fast dry... smooth finish...glossy, but not too glossy...sounds like a good combination to me! :)
     
  24. haring
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  25. Thirdyfivepickup
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    the thing that bugs me is all of the talk about it taking a month or more to harden... that isn't practical... but the outcome is pretty nice:
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  26. rocknrods
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    Obviously my painter did.:eek:
     
  27. When I was in high school we painted a friend's Plymouth bright blue with a brush. Now mind you, this was in the desert summer. It took about a weekend to dry and some bugs kamakazeed in it. But they weren't too deep and we color sanded and blocked it out. The onliest place you could tell it was brushed was the jambs. 'Cause we didn't block and sand those. He kept about six coats of wax on that car and it looked pretty damned nice. Well for a '47 Plymouth anyway. We lettered "Poor But Proud" on the side and drove the snot out of it.

    Say, Tingler, your car is sort of Poor But Proud. Do it, mang.
     
  28. You need to look in coachbuilding, the horse drawn type. Coachbuilders and early car mfgrs brushpainted them to a level that will blow you away. 5 or 6 years ago Street Rodder did an issue with 3 27 Ford Roadsters from England. One of the owners restored coaches for a living and painted his T in this TRADITIONAL manner. Thing was rubbed out to a nice shiny luster that modern paints cant acheive.
     
  29. leon renaud
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    leon renaud
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    from N.E. Ct.

    my brush painted cars looked brush painted, but i have family living in Amish Country and got to see places most tourist can't go.I got to visit an Amish buggy manufacturor and they were brush painted and as smooth as glass with very little shine real HAMB quality!this particular shop also took restoration work from outside the community there was an old like 1800s old restored fire engine the brushed red paint job on that would equal or surpass any of those tv show super paint jobs and all done by hand.Mirror smooth and a foot deep!If the owner himself haden't been the one showing me around I would have been sure it was sprayed in an autobody type enviorment
     
  30. the foam roller and brush trick works. I've even used interior latex semi gloss. Sold a car once with that paint on it, and the new owner asked the color. I told him I didn't know, but it was the same color as the wife's kitchen. Rustoleum works. And it buffs out nice.
     

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