I was told it used to take Ford Company about 30 days to paint a early T. Hand brushing with lacquer, sanding between coats and buffing.
Hey, Prior to the 20s most vehicles were brush or dip painted. A vehicle could take up to a month to paint, depending on how many coats the job warranted. After a good deal of blocking with pumice, a body would be washed and the first of several coats, would be applied with a brush. The brushes bristles were made of squirrel or badger hair, for a real top drawer job. The paint would be more on the order of what we would think of as varnish, very thin for optimal flow. Most jobs required that after one coat dried, it would be blocked with pumice and oil, and again, another coat applied. Many coats later, you had a paint job. Today you can brush and roll a paint job, but keep in mind, the more you thin the paint to get good flow , the shorter will be its life. Use a very slow reducer or retarder to acheave the best flow. I've used gasoline (very stupid), white gas(just as stupid) and kerosine to thin paint. Don't use any of these! A foam roller and a good bristle brush will do the trick, and it's move over Picasso! Swankey DevilsC.C.
A boner.... you put laquer thinners into enamel or acrylic enamel? Weird! Not critisising, just curious ......
I read somewhere that you could, so my son tried it when he painted his p.u. truck. The enamel paint thinned with lacquer thinner, dries almost as fast as lacquer. The speedy drying time helped because he painted it out in our driveway under some trees, in the middle of summer with bugs and all. Also we used the $6.00/ gal. lacquer thinner that we bought at the local Farm & Fleet store! The paint we used was N.A.P.A. acrylic enamel, and it was metalic! It was the first time he ever used a spray gun. After it was rubbed out, it looked very respectable. For the amount of money he had invested, we were very happy with it. As metalics are harder to paint I often wondered how it would work with non-metalic paint.
I AM AMAZED AT THE RESULTS. I'm suprised one of us cheap Hambers didnt come up with this. Thanks for sharing Tingler. Now whos first to do it?
Yeah ok..... I've read enough to convince me to do just a little preparation and use a sprayer. Hell....some of those guys are spending a shit load of time to prep a cheap car for a brush on paint job that takes a month to harden. Sounded like a somewhat good idea but I'm not willing to work that hard for "decent" results that can be obtained quicker with a less painful method. ...or something like that... I'm about 2/3rds of the way through that whole thread and still have some reading to do.
Sounds like a good idea to me. Do you think if i sprinked some glitter on the paint while it was still wet i could get a metal flake effect?
My dad came over a couple of weeks ago to get Metalflaked60 Jamie his grandson to pin stripe the letters and stripes on his Dodge Dakota he had painted with a brush the day before.....Redsled
Hey, remember when Centari was big? A long time ago a me and a buddy were supposed to paint his ol' man's '56 F100. Did the bodywork and got the truck in prime. Bought a gallon of Centari good to go. Being this was a non paying job, we kinda put it on the back burner. About 6 months goes by and his ol' man gets so pissed his trucks still in primer, he decides to mix up the Centari and rolled it on. He musta used one of those rollers for stucco because it rolled out like a grapefruit. There was no wetsanding and buffing this mess out. Had to get 320 DA paper and sand this thing out, and repaint. After that we learned not to string somebody along. On a side note, ever see the paint they sell at Autozone. About $50 a gal. with hardener. My sis was selling her car that needed a respray. A quick sand and shoot and a week later SOLD. Painted black came ouy really good, paint had real good gloss. I wonder how long that paint job lasted?
Does the "new" One Shot hold up in the elements anywhere as good as the "heavy metal" original stuff? Just considering anoter Enamel source.
I used a regular old nap roller to paint my off road truck and stole some of dads left over paint. The paint reacted with the glue in the roller and slowly came apart as I was painting. The whole truck looked like a wolly mammoth.lol
I've had that link saved for a while now and me and a friend are going to do exactly that to his El Camino. I'll bring my camera and we'll do a tech piece on it so you can see the results. I think a lot of HAMBers will be doing it if it turns out nice. Plus, you can always go back to it, smooth out bodywork or make changes, and roll some more on. I doubt this will be a replacement for a good spray job, but in true HAMB fashion, it might be just the thing for shiney paint on an extreme budget.
I've been driving a string of beater pickup trucks more or less since I got my license. Beater pickups get beater paint... no sense in paying $500 for a truck and then $200 for the cheapest of Maaco jobs. Anyway, I've tried the Rustoleum method mentioned above. It comes out alright... no one is going to be blown away by it and it does flow out enough that it doesn't look brushed on. The biggest problem is that it rolls on really really thin. You'll probably end up doing 5 or 6 coats for coverage. I got bored after two and old bodywork could still be seen thru the paint. Also, the Mopar link suggests using a foam brush... I disagree. For me, a regular SOFT bristle brush worked much better. Also, the foam roller tends to leave bubbles. The easiest way to get rid of them is to gently blow on them until they pop. All this being said, it takes a damn long time to brush/roll paint onto the vehicle... much longer than it would take to do a quickie tape job (this is a beater afterall) and spray on some paint. One friend sprayed Rustoleum onto his beater Corvette after successfully doing his plow truck. Zero prep was done on the plow truck so it looked like painted rust and dents, but the 'vette came out great... easily as good as the Mopar and bug pics posted above. Also, someone above mentioned using the cheap $30/gallon paint at Autozone. I sprayed that on a black F150 and then drove it around for three years. It looked as good as a cheap Maaco job and held up reasonably well. If I were to paint something on the cheap again, this is the route I would go. Ed
My old truck was painted by the previous owner with rustoleum through a cheap wagner house sprayer. I drove it for a year then rattle canned it because everyone recognized it as his. Tough paint
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