Sounds like a go, huh, Chris? This guy really has a knack for solvin' problems or creating new solutions to old problems. He helped me out bigtime!
Hey guys, I make an adapter that will allow you to adapt the entire 58-60 Buick brake****embly including the backing plates and drums. The whole deal!
I'm confused, am I missing something or is the claim that that one part does it all????? Anyway that's the adapter I mentioned earlier that will allow you to run the (apparently 58-60) buick backers, however this only addresses the backers not the hub / drum****embly,furthermore does this setup work with buick hubs or only ford hubs in buick drums??????????????????????
You would use you Ford hubs 40-48 but the 46-48 style are preferred for this adapter to work. Sorry guys I'm not trying to hijack anyones post, I was just putting it out there.
It's fine with me however this post was mainly to do with using the buick hub that comes with the drum and your post, in that context (in my opinion) was a little confusing since my objective was not to use the ford hub. For anyone interested though what does a set of your backing plate adapters cost?
$100.00 a pair plus shipping for HAMBERS and the full installation instructions as printed in the mid 80's these instruction also include how to adapt the Buick drums to the rear end as well.
First of all I don't want to venture into territory that's gonna get me in trouble so I'm going to ask an administrator to bless this, but for now my first quote came in, if I get a better price everyone involved will get that price: They will end up being $45.00 / set (2 inner - 2 outer) + shipping *This is dependant on 25 sets more or less will affect price, if we get 50 sets then price drops to $40.00 + shpg. Bottom line is if I'm going to contract a shop to do these i'll need the money up front because I don't want to get left holding the bag. Any concerns contact Flathead Pete or Jdubbya they will vouch for my character.
PM me if you're interested so I can get an accurate count. I will PM those who have already expressed an interest. I'll let everybody know where and when on the money, delivery, etc.
Wouldn't this adapter need two sets of holes? The only problem I see with using the buick hubs is the bolt cirlce. Is there still enough meat on the hub to drill it for 5 on 5.5" bolt cirlce. I looked at mine and think it would be close. Anyone know for sure?
I believe you file the holes in the backer to fit the spindle hole spacing(if I understand the question)because the backer registers on the adapter. I will check this ( I am using the 5-5 pattern) I may be wrong but I thought some guys were using the inside the drum hubs and the od had to be machined down to what the register on the drum is, which would coincide with the buick hub OD. BLAH BLAh bLAH point is if that works I would****ume that you can get the 5.5 pattern in the buick hubs. One thing I think is some buicks have rivets and some don't, but pretty sure they all have 10 bosses on the hub which gives a good location for drilling a 2nd pattern.
Heathen brought up a good point, I made these to fit tapered roller bearings. The 2 sets I have were TRB, I do not know if the ID is the same for ball bearings. Anyone? I would think they are, just not sure.
I have several sets of them here , I am pretty sure at least one will be Ball bearings . I'll check the id in the morning & let you know for sure. PS I told you I wanted 3 sets , I do but I also need an extra pair of the outer bushings as well.
I did this in the mid 60's. I reamed out the kingpin holes in the Ford V-8 60 tubular front axle to accept the Buick kingpins. I modified the notch in the Buick kingpins for the Ford locking tapered pin. This enabled me to use the 1956 Buick spindles, kingpins and complete front brake system. See photos below. The photos are from that same time period and are not the best quality. I have other photos showing the same Buick spindles/drums on the first axle I modified (stock Model 'A').
Found some info that says the ball and tapered roller bearings all have the same ID's. If anyone can verify that would be good. Also anybody that can provide some rough dim's on the early hub so I can check that as well.
Frisco You just made my day! I'm setting here with a 56 Buick parts car and I'm trying to work a deal on a 30 5 window. Now if you can show me how to use the 56 Buick rear brakes You'll be king of South Mississippi in my book. LOL
Dang!! 10 of the little beggers in the garage & not a Ball bearing in the lot!! I can give you some dimensions on the hub tho. Not Sure what you want but I'll try to cover it. About 6 5/8 to 6 3/4 total diameter. 4 5/16 total length. 2 3/4 drum mounting flange to front ( outer bearing) end. 1 3/16 rear face to rear ( inner bearing ) end, measured to casting face, not including lug boss . Lug boss about 3/16 higher than casting face. Total flange thickness , incl lug boss 3/4. It has 10 lug bosses , the 5 undrilled ones line up perfect for early ford pattern, but are a bit shy of containing the entire hole for a ford pattern, part of a ford pattern drilling will overhang the actual "boss" area . I don't see that that would be a problem as there is still pleanty of material of sufficent thickness to retain the lug studs . Any other measurments you want , let me know. Dave
Thats - pretty slick FRISCO. Very cool front end. Thanks for the dims Ol Fueler - should be able to drill the 5 on 5.5 in those hubs. But now I still gotta take the hub out to drill em. Damn it all. How would ya drill those holes - correctly???? hmmmmmm
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