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Building a car from scratch

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by CustomJ, Dec 12, 2008.

  1. CustomJ
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  2. T.W.Dustin
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    Looks cool - Give us some more details...
     
  3. chaddilac
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    Yikes!!!:eek: What an undertaking... I can't wait to watch this play out!! Have fun!:D
     
  4. VonMoldy
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    from UTARRGH!

    Is this going to be a replica of a body or a original design?
     
  5. realgonekatt
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    Looks like you got the shop for it. Good luck bro, very ambitious....
     
  6. beater32
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    Looks interesting,i'm going to follow this one.I've always wondered how you figure out the shape of the cross section pattern??
     
  7. CustomJ
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    Well I have always wanted to build a car from scratch. The chassis's were built at James Bowlers shop in Richmond VA. I am going to try and post more details with this method... I ts not going to be a replica i think I want to put a body line in it and change some simple things This ones on the back burner tho because i have a more original design for my next project
     
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  8. modelacitizen
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    I'm looking forward to this build.
     
  9. beater32
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    Too simple!Your doing what i wanna do one day.Cheers for that
     
  10. Docco
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    Looks good, will be good to see the finished result one day.
     
  11. Kreepea_1
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    You got a good start there Jay! I'm looking forward to seeing the progress. I'm glad to see the use of the projector. I keep a mini projector as part of my tool inventory and use it for laying out flames, logos, etc.
     
  12. HotRod_Joe
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    I don't think those wood wheels will hold up at speed. :D

    Looks awesome. I can't wait to watch this thing take shape!
     
  13. jhnarial
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    Jay

    Are you going to work right off of the buck?I hate working off of bucks I have to have a flex pattern or I'm screwed.

    I know you can do it so this is going to be a great thread!
     
  14. Midwest Rodder
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    Thats gonna be killer when it is done!
     
  15. You get a huge thumbs up from me. I build my cars from wood first too but not even close to the techniques you are using. I admire you and your efforts . Keep us posted. Looks GREAT!
    Don
     
  16. tdoty
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    I envy you guys with stuff to copy! The parts I need for my projects I don't even have rusty version to copy! I'm gonna have to get my design finalized and start sculpting some full size clay to pull patterns from. My biggest worry is that I'm not much of a sculptor!

    Jay does great work.....at least from the looks of that T he posted on MetalMeet.

    Tim D.
     
  17. jhnarial
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    Jay

    I was thinking more about your buck.I think if it was me I would flush screw some 2 1/2'' inch strips of sheet-metal over the ribs of the buck so I could cleco the panels to the wood buck.It would help you visualize the body as you are working on it and help with the welding process.

    Just an idea.

    Really looking forward to your build take a lot of pictures.

    edit Just thought of this if the strips on the ribs were copper strips that would really help.
     
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  18. uncle johnny
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    this will be no problem for ya jay. after seeing you build the nose for the track roadster at metalmeet


    johnny
     
  19. HemiRambler
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    Build your own car from scratch???!!??? NO WAY - IMPOSSIBLE!!!!

    Grin - Just KIDDING!!!!!!

    Maybe it was just because I was a beginner but when I made some scratch panels that were just slightly complex in nature - I found that going the extra mile to a full surface buck was a HUGE help in understanding the exact transition - not just for fab but for the visual. Getting the compound curves to blend together and lookign RIGHT from all angles wasn't as easy as I origionally thought. I had them lookign great from the TOP and SIDE views but the INBETWEEN angles the transition looked goofy - I never realized this UNTIL I made a full surface buck. I was much happier to tweak my buck BEFORE starting any metal shaping - once I was happy with the buck - the shaping part went much easier.

    IMHO
     
  20. VanHorton
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    cool, i wanna see this one come together
     
  21. jaxx
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    J - Im in the process of a scratch build myself - here is some pics - metal sub structure - 2 x 3 frame - 59 ford p u axle for the front - 26 dodge body scaled from every picture I could find . hope to see yours as you progress - looks great
     
  22. CustomJ
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    Awsome Stuff! im glad to see other people out there doing this stuff. I am a believer in spreading the joy of metalshaping and scratch builds see metalmeet.com great community! thats what its all about.
     
  23. lakesmod
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    My attempt.
     

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  24. CustomJ
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    anybody else out there got pics of there scratch built carS???
     
  25. Erik B
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    That's great and exciting to see.

    Here is my project that's been put on hold for a while. A boat tail roadster with European influences. Cardboard, steel, aluminum, conduit and CAD- what ever was available to lay it out. Waiting to get my own shop space to get back on it. It will be awhile.

    Keep posting your progress. -Erik
     

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  26. eaglebeak
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    To build anything from "scratch", first you must create the earth.
     
  27. Lazer5000
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    I like the wooden wheels. Very unique.
     
  28. GizmoJoe
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    Gee.. while it may be true... there's a useful and helpful piece of information for the folks here.

    Like many folks, I use bristol board over the buck and transfer the pattern to metal. I use push pins to hold the paper to the buck.
    Or if I'm copying and existing panel I use a lot of magnets.
    Anyone have some other ideas?

    And ya.. the wooden wheels would really lay splinters. ;)
     
  29. grouchy
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    Nice work, keep us posted!
     
  30. CustomJ
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    for planning out from a buck i first try to imagine the shape of the panel. depending on how complex a shape is determines my method of attack. if its a simple role or simple curve I simply use tig wire or a flexad » <!-- / next / previous links --><!-- popup menu contents --> ruler to visualize the profile of panels. If its complex I will build up 2" insulation foam from home depot and stack it together and carve the foam to achieve desire look. then that gives me the information for making the piece because I then am allowed to get a flexible shape pattern off the foam which is reversible and can be used on both sides. a flex pattern is 3 layers of tape in different directions to capture ones shape. see metalmeet.com for flex pattern
     

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