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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by h2owell, Jun 25, 2012.

  1. h2owell
    Joined: Apr 3, 2011
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    Does anyone here have any experiences with the dead perch on drivers side to connect the spring on a spring over I-beam axle? I had never heard of this until today. Does it eliminate bump steer like a panhard bar?:confused:
     
  2. dirt t
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    The panard bar does not stop bump steer. It locates the axel to stay centered.
    The dead perch eliminates a panard bar.
     
  3. Sumfuncomet
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    There was a post on this very subject not that long ago...do a search.
     
  4. oj
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    You have a picture? Do you mean to say it is solid mounted - no shackle?
    It is said to eliminate bump steer? That would presume that the shackle is the root cause of bumpsteer wouldn't it?
     
  5. h2owell
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    No pics, I don't have one. Just found about this thing today and was trying to learn more about them. This is all new to me and I don't want to build something that will be a hazard on the road.
    Thanks for your responses. Bet you did not you would get be teachers?
    Maybe I will learn enough one day to get this thing put together. but then this tbucket has only been in the planing stage for 64 years!
    Paul :D
     
  6. Royalshifter
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    Roundy round cars ran the dead perch.
     
  7. landseaandair
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    from phoenix

  8. ANDEREGG TRIBUTE
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    Good call!!!! Clovis Speedway memory archives huh?:D

    I cant imagine its a good setup for the street, I completely see the logic on something that only makes left turns and has "bite bolts"
     
  9. Jimv
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    if you use a "dead perch" does the working shackle have to be longer? Is this practical on the street?
    At one time you could call "total performance" & they would answer all these questions for you.Now if you call up "speedway" they sound like Autozone & ask " whats the part number" They're ****in Clueless!
    Any pics of a dead perch set up?
    JimV
     
  10. Ask a man who has used one,I think a lot of people like to talk about the reasons why they won't work...My Dad ,Uncle and I all use them, and NONE of our cars have ANY " bumpsteer".My car is a 27 with a CE axle, dodge box and cowl steering, hairpins.
    My uncles is a 28 RPU with a super bell tube, vega box, cross steering.
    Dead perches really clean up the front end without having to use a panhard rod or some sort of " chrome steering stabilizer ".
    Take a ride in a car with one... Talk is cheap
     
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  11. steel rebel
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    You might be over thinking this thing. With spring over axle the shackles are short and don't move much. I don't have any trouble with mine.
     
  12. Jimv
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    how about posting some pics of the setup
    Jimv
     
  13. leon renaud
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    Cross steering without a panard bar or a dead perch will let the Ford transverse spring front end move sideways a lot! I wish I had video I just saw the action on an A front end set up with cross steering and the front spring did some crazy ****! the frame moved over and up in each direction as he turned the wheel lock to lock the shackles let that front end move all over the place!you don't get movement like this in a fore/aft drag link lay out. I think in watching this front end a panard bar would be better than a dead perch for the street but you definiatly need one or the other if you plan to cross steer your front end
     
  14. Kerrynzl
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  15. h2owell
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    A few pics...
     

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  16. h2owell
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    The info I recieved about the dead perch came from Joe at joesspeedshop.com. He drops original forged axles and does a great job. That is where my 3.5 inch dropped axle came from and he recommends the dp highly. right set up may not need it but I don't think it can cause any problems. Thanks.....Paul:D
     

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