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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by J.Ukrop, Sep 7, 2020.

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    Next, I focused my attention to the coil bracket. Longtime readers may recall my killer, old chrome dual coil setup. Well, when I got it mounted, I realized that it would simply be too flimsy with the weight of the coils. That said, I loved the look.
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    With that out of the question, I went back to the drawing board. While I was considering this configuration, I splurged for a pair of El Cheapo coil mounts mainly for the chrome canister wraps. When they arrived, the wheels started to turn.
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    The end result is painfully simple—take a stock 1940 Ford coil bracket, elongate one of the holes, trim the trailing edge of the bracket and find some vintage hardware to tie in with the modern pieces.
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    Bolts in the stock location, and is very sturdy. With the success of that mini-project, I proceeded to install the PowerGen, belts, and fan. More details to share, but that's where we'll call it for the night. Thanks again for following along!
     
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    Speedway usually individually wraps anything that is chromed and not knowing how many pieces you need, they don't get pre-boxed. I do agree with you on all the packaging, but the shit would hit the fan if someone got a scratched acorn or some other decorative piece. Love the way you are problem solving on this project.
    Warren
     
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    There is a company in China that depends on making the plastic bags for the company that makes the acorn covers.
     
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    Still looking for one of the long bolts? I have a couple that I won’t be using IMG_4711.jpeg
     
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    Thanks, Trevor. I'm doing everything I can to do things as correctly as possible. We'll see how it does out on the street soon.

    Thank you, guys! I've been having a ton of fun wrapping up these little tasks that will transform this thing from a mockup into a functional vehicle. I do wonder what summer of 2020 me would think of this chassis.

    Nice sheers there, Dennis. I'd say they're a cut above!
     
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    Thank you to everyone who reached out about the bolts. I have a set on their way, but I'll reach out if they fall through. I've said it many times and I'll say it again—without you guys, this car wouldn't be happening.
     
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    A few small updates. First, the coil setup was bugging me for a couple of reasons. I probably could have lived with it, but the fixes were easy enough.
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    The cheap mount was looking too cheap, so I went ahead and painted the mounting tabs black to match the modified 1940 Ford bracket. I also ditched the Phillips clamp screw and replaced it with a flathead brass one. Oh, and see the coil? I subbed in a chrome one because I am an aspiring street rodder.
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    Next, I tried my luck at installing my first flathead starter Bendix. The original Bendix on this starter ended up on the Hartley's A-V8 after theirs broke on the mean streets of San Francisco. IMG_3610.jpg
    Being the class act that he is, Jeremy sent me an NOS 1938 Ford starter Bendix assembly. IMG_9138.jpg
     
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    The whole process was very straightforward. Once it was back together, I tightened the anti-chatter rods and put the cotter pins into play. Having the starter in position will allow me to finally put on the passenger side header.
     
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    Other Items Worth Sharing

    First, I almost bought this Crosley-powered Model T roadster for $2,500 on Sunday.
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    It's one of the neatest survivors I've seen in a long time.
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    It's an amazing source of inspiration for my car, from the fit and finish to the detailing. I'll share more about it in my Friday Jalopy Journal column.
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    I also appreciated this A-V8 from @NealinCA's thread. It looks like it was scanned from Griffith Borgeson's Best Hot Rods. I'll have to unearth my copy to take a closer look.
     
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    I have a fun but busy week ahead of me preparing for out-of-town company and my birthday, so I don't think I'll have too many things to report. That said, I may be able to sneak down to the garage and turn some wrenches. And if I do, you know I'll share updates on here.

    Thank you all for following along on this sometimes crazy ride. Day by day, we're getting closer to having a running car again!
     
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    That Crosley Rod is neato, but between the price and paying for storage, it would be a big setback to the A progress.
    I don't think it's been mentioned, but you have probably already thought of other auto journalists and their cars. The cars become famous and part of the background of the people. A high bar, indeed.

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  13. This whole thread has been very nostalgic for me as I was driving an A-V8 to high school in my senior year in 1959. Unfortunately, I got greedy for a '50 Olds and sold the A for $90.
     
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    Coming back to ca from vlv the other weekend I saw Gray's roadster heading home to Vegas with 2 people in it.gets driven
     
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    It was in the Pasadena Reliability Run video too.
    I'm glad it's shown and enjoyed. Gray would approve.

    I mentioned it not to put more pressure on Joey, just that there is a historic precedent and everyone following and contributing feel a connection. Joey drove version 1 a lot and shared the journey. It became part of his calling card, so to speak. Having this document of it's build and rebuild will become part of it's legacy and his. It's become Joey's Roadster. His efforts to do it right, while not unique, are important and a good guide for others. Leading by example.
     
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    This is one of those threads that as it nears completion I start feeling bad. When these things are done they tend to drive off into the sunset and the connection is lost. Please keep us up on the adventures of driving the crap out of this!
     
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    Joey won't leave us hanging like that!
     
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    Thank you for the kind words. Although I never got to know Gray, I always looked up to Pat. He's the best there ever was in our genre, and I'm lucky that I got to work with him at TRJ. I still remember one of the first times we spoke, he mentioned that he enjoyed my piece of writing I did about moving across the country. I had been reading his work since I was 10—so it really meant a lot.

    How cool is that? Post some pictures if you have some!
     
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    Too kind my friend, too kind.

    It may come as a surprise that this thread—all 154 pages of it—is actually just the prologue to the story of this car. I have some very big ideas cooking, but right now I'm just focusing on getting this thing on the road.
     
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    Today, I was able to order a whole lot of odds'n ends for the car, from hardware and electrical components to pieces to fix my swap meet horn. I was also able to check one small box between the hours of 11 and 11:25 p.m.
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    The good news is that the starter on this car was rebuilt at some point by Metroplex Rebuilders in Texas. The bad news is that the terminal post had been chewed up in a past life, and someone had placed this over the original threads. Well, after spending more than $20 on hardware that didn't fit, I was perplexed. I measured, counted, and measured again, only to realize that it was indeed 3/8-24.
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    Back in the backyard, I broke out the die again. I panicked for a second that it wasn't the right thread but, after a few rotations, I knew it was going to work just fine.
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    I don't know the last time this had a nut on it. (And don't worry, a brass nut is en route to the Terrace.) So, that concludes tonight's task. No update is too small!
     
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    Two questions for the group to close out the night: IMG_9235.jpg
    Do you guys have a preferred rubber fuel line? This kinks pretty badly going to the fuel pump.
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    Also, I know it's been discussed here before, but do you have any good resources for fuel fittings? IMG_9116-1.jpg
     
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  22. For fuel hose I've been using Gates Barracuda.
    You may find it to be stiff, but it is quite compatible with alcohol laced gasoline.
     
  23. Can you get the fuel hose barbs in the plumbing department at Ace Hardware?
     
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    I just always went to a well stocked auto parts store for fittings. As far as your linked line I’m thinking there has to be pre formed fuel injection lines that would fit the bill with a little trimming.

    or is that fuel pump “clock able”?
     
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    Yeah, I don't know if there were angled vintage fittings, but that short section between the 2 fittings with low pressure is going to warm up and fold. Check vintage aircraft stores, they may have something.
    This would have to tighten into perfect alignment and looks modern.
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  26. Can't really blame you... a 50 Olds pretty killer.
     
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    I’ve always liked the fittings you have with Wittek clamps and braided fuel line. IMG_4737.png
     
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    Man thinking about it and looking back at it a few times part of the problem is the length of the barbed fitting coming out of the fuel pump but I don’t see an easy way around that.

    im gonna change my vote to making hard lines. By the time you find the mystery pre bent hose, or machine Shorter barbs, or find a fuel pump you can clock you could have bought to fittings that you might already have in a bucket 4” of hardline and have been two tasks and a slice of pizza down the road
     
  29. I had the same issue with my starter post, I cleaned it up and slapped a screw on battery terminal and then used a battery cable end to attach everything. Works pretty splendid.

    Secondly; I don't see the need for hose going from the pump to the bowl inlets, hard line would be viable since there is no movement between the pump and the carbs. You could probably skate by with copper lines since the issue of work hardening the metal would not be too big of a deal, but the fancy copper/steel brake line would eliminate that concern entirely and still look the part.

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    I don't know, but I am thinking a banjo fitting off the fuel pump, it looks like it is a male flare?
    Good thought...I bet the top can be removed by removing the diaphragm screws and clocking.
    Brass fittings are getting harder to come by...refrigeration or hydraulic supply house...
    then there is McMaster-Carr
    I've had stainless, flex lines made up at the hydraulic hose store for the fuel block to carburetors. I'll see if I can go snap a close up
     
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