Projects Button head bolts that look like rivets??

Where can a fella score a bunch of those? I have to stick a 34 frame back together and need a shit load of em..5/16 and 3/8.

Know what I'm talking about? They look pretty much like a carriage head bolt but with no square shank on the back side. The backside is kind of serated to hold the bolt while you crank down the nut.

Our old buddy Rogue used an bunch of them in that kick ass little roadster he built years ago...I would show you a pic, but I can't find one. Yes, I hit the Google and the HAMB search.

Thanks, -Abone.

 

www.mcmastercarr.com

 

Are you talking about ribbed neck carriage bolts?

http://www.fastenal.com/web/search/...rch+All&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntpc=1&Nty=0

 

Thanks, guys. I checked out McMaster and Fastenall, with no luck. Doesn't mean they aren't there..just I'm not smart enough to find them.

Inlaw..that's not quite it, but might work if the ribbed shank is short enough..

-Abone.

 

Subscribed, cause I'd sure as hell like to use them on a few projects too...I wonder what the hell they are called...I've never seen anything like them before...

 

I would think Mcmaster Carr would have them if anyone would. I have bought many things from them over the years, and they always have it in stock, and delivered to my door the next day. Their catalog /website has everything you can think of. Heck, I think you could probably even find a piece of a$$ in their catalog somewhere if you look hard enough. Obviously that is an exaggeration, by not by much. I'll go in their website and look around and see if I can find them for ya.

 

Are these the ones your looking for ? http://www.mcmaster.com/#rivet-type-bolts/=8phb0y

 

30 seconds on Dogpile.

http://www.boltdepot.com/dimension.aspx?cc=13&cs=72&cm=25

I guess wrong kind of bolts, sorry bout that.

 

You may be thinking of "HUCK" bolts, used on truck frames.

 

He's after blind heads.

 

We used to call those jo-bolts on aircraft. Takes a special driver to grip the shank and spin it to break the pin off after mushrooming the blind end.

http://www.tpub.com/content/aviation/14018/css/14018_63.htm

 

I need em too and have been looking off and on for a time....

I must be in the camp of not being smart enough to find em either.

I was going to borrow and airframer and his rivet tools to do the 24 rivets I need on my blisters....however, I like the uniformity of the bolt type units (and the fact that I can do it myself on my terms as opposed to someone elses)

So yeah, I'm suscribed too....

 

Man, you guys are soooo close, just not quite.

What really sucks is there have been a few threads on this same thing...Also Rogue said .."you get em at so and so..." but I wasn't paying attention at the time.

I thought...I'll never need to know that..I'm never gonna build a car that needs those...

But now, here I am...

-Abone.

 

these?................

http://www.mcmaster.com/#carriage-bolts/=8pioxl

says they're grade 2......

 

They are called Rib Neck Carriage Bolts:

http://nationalbolt.thomasnet.com/viewitems/carriage-bolts/ribbed-neck-carriage-bolts
http://www.globalfasteners.com/commercial/carriage-bolt-CR.htm
http://www.fastener-express.com/ribbed-neck-carriage-bolt-zinc.aspx
http://www.blacksmithbolt.com/gpage10.html

And so on...

 

The ones Rogue had were called "locker screws". I bought a bag of 10-24's from him.

The closest I have found since are these...

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it looks like a rivet on top but is held
securely in place by a standard nut.​

Threaded rivets are absolutely indispensable

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Hope that helps,

Neal

 

The rib neck carriage bolts don't show to have the strength he is looking for to hold a frame together.

I found plenty of steel rivets but no rivet head bolts like you are hunting.

One idea may be to use button head bolts that use an allen wrench as in the link that someone showed and fill the socket head and smooth it off so that it looked like a rivet when done.

 

Weld the fucker together and dont get artsy! You are putting PONCHO power tot the ground...................you need the Hammer of the Gods for strength!

 

Locker Screws?

http://www.facilityhardware.com/products/Fasteners/3053/Slotless-Locker-Screw,-10-24x1-2

 

Grade 5 not enough?

 

Here's on place, probably others, just google it. http://www.masterbolt.com/button_head_bolts.html

Totally Stainless has them in stainless steel.

 

Each to there own I guess, but bolting a frame together isn't the best idea. Frames flex & twist. The frames were riveted for a reason. The rivet expands in the hole when the riveting procedure is carried out. You'll realise this if you ever try & get the rivets out of a frame. Fake rivets would look ok but for safety I'd weld it together.

Just my 2c...

 

Try some of these...



http://www.jamestowndistributors.co...&category=188&page=GRID&position=151&refine=1

 

Not bashing the fng... looks like a nut-zert type deal. How do you torque the shaft to compress the zert with a carnage bolt head? Lets just say it mite make my life a tad easier.

 

Scott do they do them in stainless ???

 

Try an aircraft supply, out here I use aircraft spruce, look for fastners, hylocs etc I don't think you want tapered ones all diff diameters and legnths. Roger

 

I recently bought some ex-MOD aircraft button head bolts in titanium that did not have a hex hole in the button (so they look like blind rivets) - the hex hole for the allen key is in the end of the bolt.

 

Mcmaster has those in stainless too, just dont remember what they is called, and I looked all over for em too.

We might have had them special ordered, bit I dont recall been a bunch of years ago.

 

I've machined the heads down in a pinch.

 

hyloc's