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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Petejoe, Aug 23, 2005.

  1. Petejoe
    Joined: Nov 27, 2002
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    Since I screw up my post I thought I would change it to at least something to look at.
    I always had a soft spot for Coe's. Here's a new one just acquired for the
    he-man garage. Its a 51 ford setting on a 90's chevy van 2 ton chassis.
    Drives and rides just like a new truck. Nothing has been changed.. the drivetrain length and front axle width remained the same. This thing even has a vintage air in it. The body is rust free and as straight as an arrow.
    have any cool pics of COE's ?
     

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  2. Petejoe
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    Here's a pic of a creative project i like.

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  3. BPD
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    I love COE's. I would like to do one very similar to what you have...vintage cab on a late model chassis. If you don't mind me asking how much does something like that go for? You can pm if you like are just tell me to mind my own business. Either way that is a very cool truck.

    BPD
     
  4. Aaron51chevy
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    COE's are very cool, I'd love to have one some day. I really dig this one, I think I got it off the hamb...
     

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  5. Petejoe
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    Don't know how much the owner invested but it was bought for 6500.

    Here one of the coolest COE's I've ever seen....
    Of course I spent most of my working career at White Trucks later known as Volvo-White truck corporation. White trucks made this one for Labatts brewery in Canada back in the 30's.

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  6. Hey, I like that a lot :) .

    I also like these old COEs.

    Have any more detailed information about the chassis used and drivetrain?

    Looks like the steering column sets right where it should be.

    I have a '47 Ford COE that still has the flathead in it that I'd like to eventually turn into a vintage oval track race car ramp truck. I won't use the flat motor, instead I'd use a 454 BBC, 400 SBC or maybe a Ford 390 FE. I don't want to run an automatic transmission, so I know this complicates things.

    I've been debating on using the stock frame or going with a late model chassis like you have.

    Suggestions?
     
  7. Petejoe
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    As mentioned this one was not built by us only bought this way.
    I understand this has the original drivetrain and nothing was modified. It has a 350 with automatic. Very comfortable steering wheel position too.
    I guess it was pretty much a bolt onto this 1990 chevy van 2 ton chassis.
    The truck liturally drives and rides better than most trucks i've ever ridden in. And I used to test drive the new ones right off the assy line.
     
  8. nobux
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    Here's a picture of my 46.
     

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  9. The37Kid
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    I've always thought a 1938-40 Ford COE cab on a modern chassis with a rollback would be a great thing to have. :D
     

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  10. There was a ford COE at goodguys at the Kansas Speedway a couple years ago that was a Ford but it was small, like regular pickup size, it was very slick, anyone have any info on that model?
     
  11. willowbilly3
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    The 38-40 Fords had a proprietery cab and not just a pickup cab. I have seen some cool ones. I know there used to be a cool yellow one on Whidbey Island. Also saw a red one luking on the cover of Street Rod.
    I was at Chickasha last year and there was a guy across from me with an old class A chevy motor home. 454 turbo 400 with 4 wheel disc brakes. He drove it there (and home) $1000. There was also a 50-51ish Chevy COE cab that was nice enough you could have ran it like it was, original. I think it was around $500-$600. It didn't sell either. Now there was a cool truck in the making, for less than 2 grand.
     
  12. blown49
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    Saw this one at the Rebel Run 2 years ago. Fell in love with it :D
     

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  13. Digger_Dave
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    The Labatts truck STILL lives!

    It underwent a full restoration and has been on tour around a number of Canadian car shows and promotional events for the brewery.

    STILL gets all kinds of comments!
     
  14. phat rat
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    I was building this but sold it in the stage shown here. Put it on a 78 GMC 3/4 ton frame with a 500" Caddy under the sleeper, which I'd narrowed 23". Had the steering and shifter hooked up, seats installed. I cut the original dash out and built a new dash myself. Still had to narrow the box and put 48 Chev rear fenders on it. Guy that bought it took the sleeper and box off and built a long box for it.
     
  15. long island vic
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    i have a 47 autocar coe..gonna build it someday...anyone have a pic of one too show
     
  16. Henry Floored
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    Seeing as you're asking for suggestions I'll throw out mine. I'd go for a 351W/ZF combo. This is a bulletproof driveline that still will pull hard and deliver decent mileage.
     
  17. Chrome Shop Mafia
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    Sterling Trucks, the original one, not the new one that took over Ford's Class 6,7, and 8 trucks division built a very rare, but very kool looking COE in the 1940's, I'll see if I can dig up some pix somewhere...


    TTYL.

    Later, peace...

    Troy.

    P.S. I like that White 3000 and the Labatts Brewery Whites...
     

  18. Now that's a thought. Isn't the ZF that smooth shifting 5-speed in the later Ford trucks?

    A few years ago I bought a real nice '89 Ford Super Duty rollback with a gas 460 and a 5-speed to replace my '83 Chev C-30 454 granny geared 4-speed. Both equipped with aluminum rollback bodies.

    Best part of the Ford was the transmission. The Chevy would run circles around that Ford.

    I kept the old Chevy and resold the Ford.
     

  19. :) That old original truck makes my '47 COE look like a POS :( .
     
  20. Geiser
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    God I love these things! Such cool looking lines to them! I guess it is also in part that you hardly ever see them.

    One is diffinetly on my list!:D
     
  21. nobux
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    The shed that I had my 46 stored in, was flattened by a huge oak tree 2 weeks ago. Everything was smashed flat, except one stall. A v in the tree, created an arch that went right over the top of the truck. Never even got a scratch. :)
    Modifieddriver, mines got a flathead in it too. I've been trying to decide for 3 years what to do with the truck. I keep switching from ramp truck to shorty pick up to restored stocker(It usually only takes 5 seconds of driver's seat time to talk myself out of that one). Right now, I'm leaning toward a shorty truck with an 8 foot box. I'll mount my 472 Caddy behind the cab, and hide it under a "tool box". I've got a 89 Chev 1 ton frame sitting out back, just waiting to be used.

    But, I just can't bring myself to take the truck apart.

    Karl
     

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  22. I saw a 40'ish Chevy coe on my way to work this morning... slammed, painted up real nice... man, it looked sweeeeeet!

    I'm sure it'll be at the GG show this weekend... look for pics to come.
    Sam.
     
  23. Flathead Youngin'
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    Pink would go well with your garage.....

    There was another thread (I'm sure you saw it) that had some cool looking ones. Those are a cool ride.
     
  24. old beet
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    "Pink would go well"

    K-MEMBER and I did major work on the Pink one with the looonnnng trailer, nice truck, except the color. A lady drives it!.........OLDBEET
     

  25. Sounds like ya' lucked out with the tree.

    Your wheelbase looks long, like mine.

    Pickup? No way! Make a car hauler outa' that. If ya' want a pickup, go buy one! Bet ya' already have one! If ya' make it a pickup, whatcha' going to carry back there? Your luggage?

    Also, it'll ride so rough it'll shake the fillin's outa' your teeth.

    With that monster engine put a ramp style body on there with under body tool boxes/storage compartments and have something that ya' can use ;) .

    PS: Sell it to me and I'll take it apart for ya' :rolleyes: .
     
  26. phat rat
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    One thing to think about is how it would ride with the short wheelbase on 1 ton suspension. An 8' bed would give you a really short wheelbase. Like the idea of the Caddy, they are real torque monsters.
     
  27. I have a 48 Ford F6 COE and a 73 Chevy full size motorhome chassis waiting to be paired up. Going to build a car hauler with a flatbed with beavertail. Going with 454 BBC motorvation, nice thing is the Chevy chassis is all set up for the engine.

    I was able to get my motorhome for free, no engine and inside was real bad and tons of mouse shit. Once I stripped the motorhome part off, the chassis is waiting for some stretch in the frame rails and mounting the body. My COE body was originally a 14 ft flatbed, I could not even give away the stock chassis parts, they all went to scrapyard.

    I like all versions of the COE's, but no matter what style they all require serious slamming on the ground.

    Here is a pic of my in-progress stripping the motorhome down, what a mess.
     

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  28. willowbilly3
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    I remember when you started on this. How is it coming along?
    Here is a fairly nice one that Bo..cough, cough..yd built years ago.
     

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  29. You stripped it? Looks more like the aftermath of a hurricane ;) .
     

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