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cad / olds engine to chevy 4 speed

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by johndanger, Dec 1, 2003.

  1. johndanger
    Joined: Nov 30, 2003
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    anyone have a source for a bellhousing adaptor to run a chevy 4 speed stick behind the early cad or olds engine or any other modern stick ? also what pilot bearing and flywheel can be used?

    posted this in the wrong place ,so I have re posted it here, also would like to say hello , my name is John I have a mild custom 41 Buick Century , a 52 belair , which I hope to chop and customize a bit , and most of the crap to start building a beat up little roadster pickup / modified .

     
  2. yorgatron
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    i know you,finally found the hamb,huh? tell brian P. and mark D' to get on here next time you see them.i'm the guy with the '54 Olds.all that manual tranny stuff is rare as hens teeth,you should run a hydro instead.check out www.rodnkustom.com/rocketeers i i have the factory tools for the adjustments,but you gotta buy the pizza-george [​IMG]
     
  3. RocketDaemon
    Joined: Jul 4, 2001
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    good luck!!

    i did it the best way, got me an olds 1950 manual trans with a hurst shifter, best trans you can get for an rocket... well best and easiest, its real strong... but would probally not hurt having an s10 manual etc either but just getting the clutch for the rocket is haard!!!
     
  4. Bigcheese327
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    I'm going to follow this one. Isn't there some sort of machining that could be done to accomplish this? Drill the crank, weld and redrill a bellhousing or scattershield, adapt a different clutch - that sort of thing? It seems to me this would be worth it. Hydros turn me off, quite frankly, Muncies turn me on.
     
  5. RocketDaemon
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    what do you know oh ok..

    that site said they discontinued the olds adapter due to that the competitior had a better solution, who is their competitior then?
     
  6. CadillacKid
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    Well, I just sent off an e-mail to the guy at Bendtsen's transmission about who his competitor is, so I guess we'll see how cool he really is if he spills his guts......I'll let ya know what happens....
     
  7. Brock49Ford
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    If you have a early Cad (49-54) It isn't too bad, if you have a 55-62 Cad then gets gets difficult. As previously stated the flywheel is going to be the hardest part. Cad only had manual trans for about 3 yrs and they were rare when new. Some Olds flywheels crossover, but those aren't easy to find either, it sounds like Yorgatron has them all [​IMG] Probably cheaper to have one made. I looked for about a year for mine and still paid dearly, but it was a NOS Schiefer for the late Cad. (I still have never seen another one) All of the early adapters were cast for Ford trans, 32-48 or 49-64 style. The one good thing about wanting to use a chevy trans is that there are still adapters avail for putting one of those behind a 59AB flathead, so all you would need is a Cad/Olds to 32-48 ford trans adapter. Basically double adapters. The Cad/Olds adapter is #0301. The Chevy trans adapter is still avail. through Speedway or Hot Rod and Custom Supply. Most of the early aftermarket flywheels were drilled for 11" long style Ford Clutch, Same one used in all the Ford trucks for decades. There were also pilot brg adapters that were avail, my Cragar bellhousing came with one, but it did not work with my set up. Just take a lot of measurements and make one up. That is what I know and I am sticking to it.
    Brock

    Yorgatron - do you have knowledge of 49-62 Alum aftermarket Cad valve covers?? Offy, Edelbrock, Hildebrandt, are the givens. What about Edmunds or Fenton?

     
  8. Rocket88
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    I've got the opposite problem up here. I keep running into 4 speed stuff. I've had 4 stick set ups that I have sold. Do you think I can find any hydro stuff, no frickin' way!
     
  9. Brock49Ford
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    I have a 1958 or 1960 Cadillac Hydramatic (car was a 58 but motor was 1960 serial #) in my garage, condition unknown. I can check and see if the are any #s on the case if it makes a difference to anybody. It looks fairly fresh, but I would go through it before I put it in a car. I am down near Tacoma, Wa. if anybody is interested. Has converter and I think I have the correct starter too.
    Brock
     
  10. Crestliner
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    I have an early cad to 49-64 bellhousing and a adapter plate to pre 49
     
  11. Brock49Ford
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    Crestliner,
    How much do you want for the bellhousing? Got any pictures of that? I have a friend who may be interested. Let me know and I'll try to reach him.
    Brock
     
  12. Crestliner
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    Here's the bellhousing
     
  13. Brock49Ford
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    Man you are quick. That is the adapter that I have in my 1949 Ford with a 1960 motor. FYI, that adapter is for the 1955-62 Cadillacs, should have the #0302 on it, mine was an the starter bump. I need the one without the starter mount (#0304), as 49-54 Cads and Olds had a block mounted starter. If you hold that early adapter plate up to it I think that bolt pattern is slightly off too.
     
  14. johndanger
    Joined: Nov 30, 2003
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    thanks for all the input guys , I am getting a lot of good stuff out of all this
    I figure I should give you an idea of what I have , and what I am trying to do , actually I dont have the motor yet , but I have the choice of either a 53 cad block or a few later ones , what I do have is an edmonds 2x2 intake for the Cad , an early cad / olds to early flathead bellhousing adapter , cad olds aluminum flywheel , a beat up LaSalle top loader that I would rather get rid of and use the money to put in the car ( but I am keeping until I am sure I won't use it ),and a late olds J2 manifold .
    have been building the chassis for my hotrod , and I was given a running 57 corvette smallblock ( some asshole took it out of a nice restored car to put a big block in it), and a saginaw , and even though I never wanted to run a smallblock , I figured that it was a pretty cool one and it runs and is free , so I will run it until I get an old Cad motor built and then swap it out , but I would like to leave the trans in and put the cad motor in front of it .
     

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