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Discussion in 'Off Topic Hot Rods & Customs' started by Sharpone, Apr 15, 2025.

  1. Sharpone
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    IMG_3059.jpeg IMG_3058.jpeg IMG_3057.jpeg IMG_3056.jpeg IMG_3054.jpeg Hello all, looking for opinions on allowable rust and wear on quarter elliptical springs for an Austin Healey Sprite. The main spring has about .020 to .025 wear (circled in orange) . The worst rust pitting is about .010 to .015. The spring leafs are 0.155 thick. I used a straight edge and eye balls to gauge the pits a lot of the pitting is .005 or less. US suppliers use less leaves and a much higher rate which raises the rear 2 to 3 inches. I don’t want to raise the rear as I’m going to lower the front already.
    Thanks
    Dan
     
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  2. FrozenMerc
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    Everyone of those rust pits is a stress riser and the leaf will crack and fail sooner (perhaps much sooner) than if the rust pit wasn't there. If it is going to be a 1,000 mile per year, drive to church on Sundays, smooth roads, and fair weather only type car, they will probably out last you. But if you are going to put some serious miles, or drive it like Austin's are meant to be driven (Elkhart Lake - anyone?), I would be inspecting those springs at a regular interval as a minimum, but probably best to just replace them and remove leafs out of the new spring packs until you get the rate you are after.

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  3. Sharpone
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    Thank you, that is what I suspected, a failure sooner or later. I wish I could find the original style springs but I’ll have to live with the new style. The stiffer rate isn’t a concern and may improve handling. Maybe I can have a local shop re arch the springs to get the proper ride height.
    Thank you
    Dan
     
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  4. Kerrynzl
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    Dan

    They're only $150 from Moss Motors
    https://mossmotors.com/265-630-spring-assembly-rally-spec

    Pull them apart and reset them in a press [I'll show you how to do this]

    OR You can use Lowering Wedge used front suspension wedges for heavy duty trucks, which are available from NAPA. They come in 1/2 degree increments [ 1/2° to 5° or 6°]
    Use the 3 or 3 1/2 degree wedge for a Bugeye with the new rear springs available from Moss Motors.
    This should lower the rear axle to about the same ride height as original.

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  5. Kerrynzl
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    You can also use weld on spring location plates [laser cut]

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  6. Sharpone
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    Thanks I thought about extending the hangers, however the wedges might be the ticket.
    Dan
     
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  7. Kerrynzl
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    The cheap wedges available from NAPA are 2-1/2" wide, so you grind notches where the U-bolts go
    you also need to drill a hole for the center bolt [this is simple diy stuff]
     
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  8. Sharpone
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    Kerry I may do the wedges Also I would like you to show me how to reset them in a press.
    Thanks
    Dan
     
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  9. Kerrynzl
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    I don't have a press so I made a jig that uses a 2-1/2 ton bottle jack. [you don't need too much force]
    You dismantle the spring and trace the shape for reference.

    Leaf springs are linear ,so a 2" drop requires 2" reshape of the static arch.

    Here is the Jig I made [the stopper saves lot of time/guess work]
    upload_2025-4-17_17-20-5.jpeg

    You bend it along the leaf in 3/4" to 1" increments
    upload_2025-4-17_17-23-43.jpeg

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    Before and after [this example was re-arch]
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    One the initial arch is done, simply copy on every leaf then re-assemble
     

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  10. Sharpone
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    Thanks, I like your stop idea.
    Dan
     
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