Can a traditional car have EFI?

Yeah, people will try to use this tired and warped argument...


Hot Rodders " back in the early days" were building Hot Rods.

Not Traditional Hot Rods.

Its the passing of time that made that style Traditional.



If the passing of time had no influence, my wife wouldnt have had to pay so much money for my 18 year old single malt christmas present....

 

Alex is exactly correct.

What we are doing as Traditional rodders is not building a cutting edge rod we are building what was cutting edge during the period that we are trying to emulate.

My wife tells people that I restore old cars and in a sense we are a type of restorer. Not a restorer in the strictest sense but one who takes the into account what was either originally done to a specific car or what would have been done if we get lucky enough to score a "virgin".

It is not easy and believe me it is not cheap. It takes a lot of talent and patience to take a car and builld it the way that it would have been done. It is not for everyone and it certainly is not easy.

As for dependable anything properly built can be as dependable as anything that is built today. One thing for sure I am not concerned about my old hooptie having sudden exceleration or having to lie about it and say that my peddle needed a shim or got stuck under the floormat. When in reality there was a glitch in the program and the drive by wire screwed up.

 

1969 transmission - woodstock era

 

They aint called idiot lights for nuthin.

Hey I know this is way off topic but does anyone remember when the Pinto had the same idiot light for low oil pressure and engine temp? When the light came on you never knew if you should rev it up to cool it off or shut it down so it wouldn't toss a rod.

 

Wow Beaner I owned a Pinto and didn't know/can't remember that!

 

Hows this for a idiot light?? (that Pinto was a carbureted car)


Do you think my grampa, who cut parts off cars to make them lighter and quicker would not have jumped all over something that could "TUNE in near 3x horsepower?"

And you are right, all this is "not traditional".. but cool as hell. All this is NOT HAMB era approved I am sure. BUT is this any different than bolting on a new style Holley/Demon 4 barrel on a SBC and setting it into a traditional car?? Just another way of mixing the gas and air.

 

Can it be traditional? Probably not..not that I care in the least.

Can it be a bad ass hot rod with traditional sensibilities?
Most definitely!! And yes, I'm completely biased!

 

It's gay but at least you don't have to look at it.

EFI.... not very cool.
(make sure you lie about it, hahaha)

 

That was the same vintage Pinto that had the speedo-cable steering column.

Frankly, Detroit started downhill in the mid '60s. Innovation and experimentation were purged from the bloodstream. The Trans-Am cars at the end of the decade were kinda the last hurrah, a few respectable remnants lingered on into the new decade but with the 'oil crisis' and the advent of the 5mph bumper in 1973 darkness closed in upon the Motor City for a fair number of years.

 

I had one of these. But after the solid lifter 302 went in, none of the idiot lights worked anymore. Of course, Pintos are off-topic for the HAMB, but then, so is EFI, so I guess all bets are off.

 

No.

 

Used the valve covers and air cleaner off the original big block and a special cover to hide the EFI.Not embarrassed to open the hood.

 

Spin it anyway you want, the answer is still no.

 

And thats exactly what its all about is spin. What a crock of shit this thread is. Really. Oh, and slammed, this time you have really out-done yourself on the new avatar, that about takes the cake. Where in the hell do you find this stuff?!

 

I get the street rod guys all the time either gawking or bitching about my 50 Plymouth. It is just the way it came from the factory drive train wise with the period correct hop up items, split exhaust, dual B&B Carbs, Shaved head and 1 late model add on for reliability; electronic dist. Now the body is also done in the fashion of the day with Frenched headlights, custom tail lights, shaved door handles, nosed, rounded corners, floating grill, Lowered and chrome reverse wheels, And one upgrade for safety; disc brakes. I consider this a traditional car. Now the 48 F1 i am building is another story as it is going to be my daily, so on the outside it will have a traditional look but the running gear is all late model fuel injected 5.0 and AOD. It had a mustang II on it when i got it so i put a 4 bar out back to hang the 9" on so the thing will have the right stance. For the most part in my mind it is pretty much a traditional car, my money built the way i want, if someone don't like it oh well!

 

Yes. EFI is homosexual in its orientation.

Please feel free to post pictures if your awesome period correct intake system

 

Does this joker own anything besides a muscle car? Please prove me wrong on this otherwise get over yourself.

 

You dont have to own a On Topic car to be welcome on the HAMB.

As long as you post about them.


You are taking this stuff way too personal, man....

 

I'm going to laugh my ass off at all you guys (who think you have such big dicks because you have a so called "traditional" hot rod) when the government makes them all illegal to drive on the roads. It may not happen next week, or even next year, but it is going to happen. Even if SEMA spends all their time under the desk and between the legs of our politicians its inevitable. Don't doubt me!

Then lets watch all these so called traditionalists climb over the top of each other on their way to GM to buy their new E-Rod engine.

 

Far be it from me to deny your right to express your view; I merely question the appropriateness of expressing that view on a forum devoted to traditional hot rods and customs. And as much as I should like to answer you in detail I shall not, as it is going to become political and take several hours.

Suffice it to say that the whole situation is changing: 2011 was the year people started seeing the issues for what they are. The same forces which have been threatening hot-rodding are those which now threaten organic farming, community-supported agriculture, and local farmer's markets.

I refer you to my blog (link in my signature); or PM me for links to relevant sources.

 

Thoughts on a traditional look?

Well,....fiberglass bodies mounted via urathane bushings on store-bought frames might look traditional to spectators.

But false impressions don't make them traditional rods.

If I build a rod out of salvaged parts from the thirties and forties and then drop a crate engine in it, there's no way I can convince anyone that it's traditional.

 

If you think traditional is so dumb, why the fuck are you posting on a traditional Rod and Kustom board
Paul

 

I actually owned 2 pintos I wish I could say that I am embarrased about it but they got me two and from on the cheap. The first was a '72 or a '73 I don't recall which, 15 bucks from the wrecking yard because it didn't run. A belt cured it and it took me and my little brother all of an hour to change in the wrecking yard useing their tools.

It ran well had way over 100K on it when I gave it to a friend and hit the road for an adventure and it had a carburetor. Imagine that.

Paul,
These guys come on here all the time, a couple of years ago it was a fella that was a "GM Engineer" and was touting cars that needed no driver, I think they were going to be driven by some fella in Pakistan or India guided by computer display and GPS.

They think they are going to be impressed with their views or that we are going to cringe in fear when they tell us that Big Brother is going to take over our lives. Aldous Huxley wrote abut it in "Brave New World", it hasn't happened yet but I am still worried. George Orwell told us about it in his novel "1984" at last count this is 2012 unless this is all a dream. Something that I learned a long time ago and will live by until I am no longer with you is real simple no one can take your freedom from you, they can only take what you allow.

Here is the deal, anyone can own and drive a modern car all it takes is money. Now to own and drive what this board is founded on that being a rod buuilt traditionally with traditional parts and pieces the money part if the equation is still intact but there is the added variable that we call skill. With enough money I could buy an Art Morrison chassis (late model Vette suspension and brakes), a reproduction '55 Chevy body and a twin turbo LS. If I am too lazy to screw it together I could even pay someone to do that for me. The I would own an old looking late model car. But what would be the point for the same cash I could buy myself a 700 HP Shelby Mustang and it would be equally impressive.

No one else does either.

Sorry I just thought it was a good time to lighten things up a bit.

 

hey! i dont think my dick is that big!

 

I'm sorry.

You're right. Its proper edicate to not post about your own muscle car collection.

It is however in good form to go around critiquing the amount of "traditional" a car was built with, especially when this same critic won't step up and build one himself?

Maybe we can get some hipsters on here who pedal a fixed gear around town to enforce tradition. Well, as long as they don't post about their OT rides...

 

Calm down man...

Its your car, you are happy with it.

Thats all that matters.

But if you start discussing the EFI you have on it on a Forum that concentrates on Traditional Hot Rods & Customs, you might get some opinions you dont agree with.

That is the risk you took...



I think this Thread has run its course...