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Can you id this wheel?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Kartsa, Oct 17, 2003.

  1. Kartsa
    Joined: Jun 23, 2001
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    In wheel center is stamped:

    CLEV-WELD
    Made in USA

    16
    -
    4.5

    45-FK-B
    Bolt circle is strange.It is smaller than 4.5"
    I think it is 4.25".Is that possible?
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    Backside
     
  2. Kartsa
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  3. sodbuster
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    Here you go....When you put it in the pop-up window stop at the " .jpg " leave off the stuff after jpg

    Chris Nelson
    Kansas

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  4. Kartsa
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  5. Kartsa
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    No one?Well,forget about bolt circle.It may be redrilled or something.Does 30's Chevy wheel look like this?
     
  6. TagMan
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    Not Chevy - as far as I know, mid-30's Chevys all had 6-lug bolt wheels.
     
  7. cadlights
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    Looks like a 36 Pontiac to me.
     
  8. 38Chevy454
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    I think you have a late 30's mopar wheel. The bolt pattern is 5 on 4.5 I believe. If my memory is not too far gone, I had a friend with a 37 Dodge coupe and the stock wheels looked like those.

    Definitely not Chevy, they were 6 lug.
     
  9. lowsquire
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    arent they the ones on shines truck?
     
  10. gowjobs
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    Supposedly, Shine custom built his... mebbe they're some artillery wheel welded into the size outer rims he wanted or somethin'. mAybe he just found an old set of truck wheels and welded in a new bolt circle... ???
     
  11. Kartsa
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    The bolt pattern is not 4.5".It's smaller.Anyway,cool looking wheels,I think.
     
  12. 286merc
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    That wheel design was stamped for many car companies in the 30's as well as used on utility trailers well into the 50's.

    If it is not from the "Big 3" then it could be one of the independents.
    Could even be metric; a big USA wheel company was probably very price compe***ive in the 30's durin the Depression when any order meant jobs.
     
  13. Inthegarge
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    30's Plymouth or possibly Pontiac. RW
     
  14. Crestliner
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    I think the old mopar had the extra holes for lineup pins, they used bolts instead of studs. They also had the clips to hold hubcaps.
     
  15. OldSub
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    I can't offer a positive ID for this wheel, but there is a possibility that has been ignored here. In 1936 Chevy used a wheel that was different than the usual six-lug wheel commonly expected to be on all 30's Chevys.

    I had a '36 2-door Standard in '72-'73. It was missing one wheel and it took a lot of searching to find a matching wheel.

    I don't know that the pictured wheel is a '36 Chev wheel, but its possible and it looks like what I remember those wheels to be. I don't remember the dimensions but it was not the same as anything else I was able to find at the time.
     
  16. Kartsa
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    Well,I was told that these wheels came from 36 Chevy.I didnt believe it,because I thougt Chevy has 6 bolts.
     
  17. TagMan
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    Not sure how much, if anything, this will add to the mix, but according to my Master Chevy Parts Manual (1929-1939 edit.), the following wheels were all avaliable in 1936 under group number 5.803:

    P/N 592847 Steel artillery wheel for 5.50x17 tire. "S" stamped on bolt flange. Models EA, ED, FA, FB, FD

    P/N 601772 Steel artillery wheel for 7.50x16 - models EB, FB, FD.

    P/N 601994 Steel artillery - 17" for model FC

    So, according to the Parts manual, there was only one 16" wheel offered in 1936 for Chevrolet and the "spokes" on the U.S. wheels for '36 look much different than the one pictured. The only other 1936 wheels listed are for the big trucks and are much larger sizes.
    Having said that, it could be possible, although not noted in any text in the manual, that the parts book I have is for domestic (RE: USA) models only and that export cars had different wheels to satisfy local laws / customs. I've had '30's vintage Chevys for 20+ years, but I've never heard of a separate parts manual for export models - anyone else ever hear of one??
     
  18. I think 38chevy454 was right, they look like late thirties Mope wheels to me.
     
  19. OldSub
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    Kartsa it has been 30 years since I sold my '36 Chevy, but if you were told that's what they were for, I'd believe it. They look like what I remember my '36 as having.

    If you can find an original '36 somewhere you might try to bolt them on to check it out.
     

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