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Can you identify this front end?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Marcia, Apr 10, 2011.

  1. Marcia
    Joined: Feb 27, 2009
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    We just dragged this out of the woods.
    It is upside down in the snow bank. Yes we still have snow.
    It had wood spoke wheels. The quarter eliptical springs, instead of running paralllel, they run from the front axle to meet at a point in the front.
    What is it?
     

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  2. Swifster
    Joined: Dec 16, 2006
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    Damn! I was hoping this was another Jungle Pam thread.
     
  3. Squablow
    Joined: Apr 26, 2005
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    Looks like a Model T Ford axle with some kind of homemade farm machinery piece built onto it. My guess is the axle was reused under some piece of home made equipment or maybe a hay wagon/trailer.
     
  4. Johnny Gee
    Joined: Dec 3, 2009
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    from Downey, Ca

    Really :rolleyes::confused::mad:
     
  5. Marcia
    Joined: Feb 27, 2009
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    The rear end looks the same. We didn't bring it home, too big and heavy. But maybe I can get a picture in a days.
     
  6. nrgwizard
    Joined: Aug 18, 2006
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    from Minn. uSA

    Looks kinda-like a late-teens/early-twenties, maybe earlier chev.

    Marcus...
     
  7. Yup, I think early Model T. Spring setup isnt.
     
  8. bcowanwheels
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    Axle is model "t" all the rest is junk
     
  9. pasadenahotrod
    Joined: Feb 13, 2007
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    from Texas

    The axle is an Elliot style axle which was common to the Model T Ford and most other early automobiles from the late 1800s to the late 20s and later for some. The car this axle is from may be a Jordan, I saw a body/frame at the Decatur Swap Meet in February that had frame ends like this dual quarter elliptic would bolt up.

    Reverse Elliot axle are the most common axles now in use, Ford started using them in 1928 with the start of Model A production.
     
  10. It is sitting upside down but it looks like an Overland from somewhere in the period 1920-25. This model was Overland's attempt to compete with the Ford T. Find a picture and you will see the distinctive cover below the radiator. Chevrolet 490s of 1916 to early '20s used quarter elliptic springs which went forward from the chassis to the axle. Certainly not a Ford T axle.
     
  11. It was a Model 4 for 1920 to 1922 then the name was changed to Model 91 for 1923 to 1925. Basically the same car all the way through. The same size as the T Ford but about 20% heavier and with a smaller engine - 143ci vs 176 for the T. Referred to as the Overland Four on this page - http://www.wokr.org/gallery/gallery1.htm .It was later updated and became the Whippet.
     
  12. shmoozo
    Joined: Aug 14, 2007
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    from Media, PA

    Looks like a piece of early 20th Century scrap metal to me.

    ;)
     
  13. Marcia
    Joined: Feb 27, 2009
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    Thanks everyone for all the info.
    It's a Willys Overland.
    Looks like I'll have to get a couple of strong guys and go get the rear end. The frame is missing, or well buried in the duff.
    I also brought home the cowl with the windsheild posts, but I didn't know it was the same car. The gas tank is in the fire wall. You lift the hood to fill the gas.
    What a unique car!!
     

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