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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 64ragtop, Apr 22, 2008.

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  1. stude_trucks
    Joined: Sep 13, 2007
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    ^^^ 20 years ago? I guess they haven't figured out how to stop every city in the U.S. from still doing it yet? Sounds like the same article that proves no one has to pay any taxes. Liberal cities problem, please, stop and think for a second. This stuff happens everywhere. If people would just be reasonably respectful to others, it usually is not much of a problem. Stuff happens, just be halfway decent about it and 64ragtop sounds like he was. He didn't enjoy it, but he dealt with it. Worst case if you just can't deal, move, don't live where you aren't wanted and you don't like your neighbors and you can't do what you want. Every city has different areas. Move to a conservative city where you can apparently just do whatever the hell you want whenever you want to.
     
  2. All you guys that say clean up or move somewhere else why? it is like the race tracks they were their first,the ***holes moved in knowing what was there and still *****! around here the city uses google earth to look for violations and then they come knocking on your door! talk about invasion of privicy! it does not matter if it is behind walls in your back yard or not they are looking from the sky. as long as no one *****es the city should not care, oh ya I forgot they are trying to make up lost monies from the decline in property tax. rant off!
     
  3. stude_trucks
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    I didn't say clean up as much as I said try to be respectful and get along with people. People should try it sometime instead of just hating everyone around them and complaining. You'd be surprise at how nice people can be when you are nice to them, especially if you are nice to them first. But, if you can't get along with your neighbors, it is probably just better for yourself to pack it up and find some place more to your liking so you can be happier. It is usually a lot easier to change yourself and situation to the way you like than to change other people.
     
  4. ot0_m0t0
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    Hm, I am confused. I thought that America is the land of freedoms.:confused:
    Here in Cro, a guy has a private land fill trash site in the middle of the small town and government cant do jack, cos its private land, and neighbours complain.
    On the other side, Im not allowed to shoot the thievs in my house, even if they are armed n dangrous.
     
  5. F&J
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    I lived in a tiny house in the "best" area of the priciest town here. I felt like some sort of lowlife living a****st all those wannabe yups. The town won't allow any outbuilding or shop/garage to be any bigger than the footprint of the home itself.

    I just moved to a town that allows anything you want. It's not trashy or lowlife at all. This is the first time in my life that I say every day; " I love living here". I finally found a place where I belong.

    MOVE....and start enjoying life.
     
  6. James Curl
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    The reason most cities have a code against camper trailers, motor homes and such is because someone went to the city planning department and helped them write an ordnance to require them to be parked in a special rental yard that the person responsible for the ordnance happens to own. Where I live the car must be out of sight or covered, but it can be in plain view in a rental yard with no cover, four flat tires and the city does not care. I have a city council person across both streets from me and have had no problems with my cars, which I keep covered when I am doing long term work on them. I do not live in a Liberal City or county. I live in Williamson County and we have no Democrats in office.
     
  7. tfeverfred
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    These laws and ordinances are in place because they got voted in. They didn't just appear over night. People love to ***** AFTER the fact, but where were they when the bill or ordinance was being proposed? Locked in their own selfish world with their heads up their ***es most likely. Stuff like this is public record. All you have to do is check the back page of your local newspaper to find out what's going on or better yet, get off your *** and go to a townhall meeting or city council meeting sometime. It's so easy to cry and *****, but if you're not involved in the process, shut the **** up and deal with it.

    There are NO secret ordinances. I found the link I posted by using Google and it was the first hit. I'm sorry about what you're having to go through, but as in most cases, there is probably more to the story. After you get in compliance, try getting involved with what is going on because things will only get worse if you don't. Austin is a cool place to live, but to play the game, you need to know the game.
     
  8. willowbilly3
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    I lived in a smaller Texas town with those codes and they did occasionally enforce them, and I think when someone complained. I kept my junk rotated, moved the piles and cut the weeds regularly and never had a problem.
     
  9. If you are good with carving urethane foam and laying fibergl***, you could install a fountain in your front yard in the shape of a large 6' fist... the water could spray from the tip of the middle finger, which of couse, would be proudly pointing skyward. Across the front you could have it lettered "Thanks for calling code enforcement." Paint it up nice and call it "art". Or, since it is still Texas, the fountain could be the shape of a hand pointing a pistol, maybe pointing at the most likely to call neighbors house.

    Then wait for the vans with the satelitte dishes on top.
     
  10. sammamishsam
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    tfeverfred has the right url to go to. Go into the code enforcement section. It will give you a brief synopsis of what is going against you. By the way, did you know you can't have more vehicles than you have licensed drivers? That site also has the city codes in another section. If there are community by laws you should have been provided a copy of them in your ***le report when you bought the place. You may have a homeowners' ***ociation with "Covenants, Conditions and Restrictions" also. That's where the neighborhood goody two shoes snoop in all your stuff to see if they can find something to prove they are superior in every way. Hell, you may have an architectural committee too. They are the ones who approve what shades of brown you can paint your house.
     
  11. 53sled
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    Move to KC. There are 2 houses next to me for sale, cheap. I won't rat on you, promise.
     
  12. If you were there first , if you have junk cars animals ect. Before the ordinace was p***ed. You are cons***ionally protected from X POST FACTO laws. That means laws after the fact. Having said this you have to be able to afford it .It cost lots of money to stand up for your cons***ional rights. In some cases you can get free legal help from the american civil libertys union.If they really want they can h***le you by saying you are polluting or your stuff is a health hazzard by being habitat for rats and mice and mosquitos ect. Sometimes there is just nothing that you can do.:mad:OldWolf
     
  13. mustangsix
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    Well, yes and no. What they can't do is to p*** a law which prohibits or criminalizes past actions which were previously legal, but they can p*** laws that prohibit those actions in the future. So it may have been ok to store that stuff yesterday and they can't go after you for that, but could be an offense tomorrow.

    Say you have a coal fired plant that spews lots of smoke. The EPA can order you to reduce emissions and just because you built the plant a hundred years ago is no protection.

    The way to defend yourself is to really get involved in the boards and gov't meetings that determine this stuff. It's a lot harder to fight after its p***ed.
     
  14. Verbal Kint
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    This is one of the reasons I really like Montana, but these "wanna be exclusive" neighborhoods are creeping in.


    s.
     
  15. 28 chevy
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    Prob if you had a plate on it and sitting on the tires you would be ok
     
  16. Aman
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    Here in Corpus the city has established an Enviroment Court that is run by city marshalls. Same power as the police but mainly monitor stuff like this. It's good in a way because the low lifes have infiltrated the "good" neighborhoods and park their cars in the front yard like they did in the ghetto. The mexican music plays at full volumne outside all night long while the drunk *******s are inside p***ed out. I hate that ****. The fact is if everyone acted half way decent and respected the neighbors there wouldn't be a problem. If you want to live like a pig then move to the pig farm. However, I don't see what trouble a pop up could cause. Do you have any new neighbors? The same thing happened to me about twenty years ago. The new neighbors across the street moved down here from Minnasota and decided to clean up this town. They reported me for working on an El Camino I bought for the 454 and 400. I pulled the motor and had the car in the driveway behind my chain link gates. The city told me that if it could be seen from the street or any public place it was fare game. The only person(s) that could see it were the newbies directly across the street. I think those people ended up in the mental ward, I know she did, and I hope they went back to Minnasota to "clean up their town".

    Sad times bro, sad times.
     
  17. ray
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    from colorado

    it's really quite simple, isn't it? i know my place in society, it's not living in the ritziest neighborhood in town, though i love the architecture there. i don't belong in the gated communities with covenants, or even the neighborhoods where every lawn is green and manicured. give me brown overgrown gr***, the occasional pile of junk or rotten car in the neighbors yard and i'll fit in just fine. i'll even tolerate the neighbors barking dogs. this in exchange for living a****st people who don't much care what i do in my yard. i realize that i am part of the element "they" want to keep out, so why push the issue? i won't move into the highly regulated areas, they can have their covenants and zoning laws, and i can have my old cars.
     
  18. UnIOnViLLEHauNT
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    Wow, I might really be in the minority here, but we just went to look at two houses in Howell NJ this past week, (same town as ChopOlds here) and its really hit or miss. Some areas are really nice, but two houses down can be a shotgun shack. The area will be built up a LOT in the near future as its 10 miles from the Jersey Shore, but commutable from NYC. So, we want to get in while we can.

    The one house has a 1200 sq/ft shop and 3 acres and the other a 900 or so sq/ft attatched garage, but the neighbors two houses down have like 3 import cars torn up sitting on the lawn. I have a SMALL workspace now but go out of my way to keep the outside of my house clean. Why? Because whatever my house looks like or my neighbors house looks like directly affects my property value. The house we have here is around $350k value give or take, thats a lot of equity to "look the other way" about just cuz my neighbor wants to have cars apart on his lawn or trailers stashed all over. The neighborhood becomes trashy, I lose money in my investment.

    Back when all these Civil Liberties were established housing markets and adjustable rate mortgages were not existant. Now it runs peoples lives.

    That said, I have had issues with neighbors, ONCE in a blue and usually never say anything, it usually works its way out. All my neighbors are really nice. Even the one with the car alarm that goes off 10x a week late at night haha.
     
  19. George G
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    Check to see if there is a right of appeal. If so then appeal the order.
     
  20. James Curl
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    You do no have to worry to much about the person who paid $350,000.00 to $700,000.00 junking up his front yard, he is not interest in seeing his value going down. If he spends that kind of money then he can afford a shop behind the house or in an industral area of town to work on his cars. I do not think many of us fall into this catagory. Most of us do not live in this type of neighborhood unless we moved there twenty five or thirty years ago and the area hot. And in that case we are not about to mess up the value of our property when we could sell and move to a cheeper place and have a bigger shop and more cars with the difference in the money we would make.
     
  21. SMART MAN!
     
  22. ALindustrial
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    i have one neighbor that mows his yard once a month... everyone else gets knee high... i shoot for once a week... if they fire at me..... they better be ready.
     
  23. Dan10
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    from Joplin

    I'm guessing that the citation should have a number listed for you to call and ask questions. Ask for the person that wrote the citation. Be Nice. Ask the person why it was not a problem for the past 8 months, and ask for a copy of the rules regarding this type of issue. 9 times out of 10 the person will be glad to talk to you and help you resolve the issue.
     
  24. racer32
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    Welcome to Austin. Austin isn't really part of Texas anymore-too many immigrants from places like Kommiefornia. Even the ****ty neighborhoods are full of greenies who think everything should be sunshine and roses and pretty pink houses. Move. You won't regret it. I have the remnants of a Ford F1 visible from the front of my house-been there a year or so. The next-door neighbor's yard just got mowed for the first time in a year, and his garage is literally falling down. The city doesn't care because the neighborhood is older and the houses are small. The rich guys and greenfreaks don't live in my neighborhood. The majority of the houses on my blcok are owner-occupied, so there isn't much turnover and no crime to speak of. It's quiet (unless there are some yahoos in the rent house down the block) and nobody bothers anyone else or their stuff. It's what thousands of neighborhoods are like once you find one away from the money and the political activists.
     
  25. mr. h
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    in the great city of pearland texas, where i used to live, i had the lemans parked in the driveway forever, i drove it all the time, but the one time i decided to actually work on it in the driveway, literally i had the hood up for 3 hours i got a complaint from the hoa. bunch of ********. i was not allowed to work on my car in my driveway, i could pull it in the garage which was not long enough to even fit my car in. thank god i lost that house in the divorce.
     
  26. Kevin Lee
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    I guess I understand how this could effect you in a hot rodding sort of way, but this thread is about a city code violation with a pop-up camper - and has more than run it's course. Back to hot rods, fellas.
     
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