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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Hot Rod Dirty's, Aug 26, 2009.

  1. Hot Rod Dirty's
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    In need of a car hauler so we can do more long distance shows. I have seen some RV style Toy Haulers , is anyone making one for hot rods? I like the idea of a "1 piece" unit so I don't have to buy a truck AND a trailer.
     
  2. Mr48chev
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    I think the weight of the vehicle being hauled might be the issue with those. Most are set up for a pair of quads or a couple of Harleys and not much more.

    They do exist but this one is not cheap http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ40WmHEZDM
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  3. racerjeff
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    We build what you are looking for: www.concepttransporters.com
    On our website go to "Sales" then "Racing" to see more pictures of this type of truck we build. These trucks are set up to haul 2 to 3 cars and still have a full lounge and restroom. Everything we build is custom to order. If you want any more information, please give us a call. 559-233-1313
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  4. AnimalAin
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    Beautiful stuff above, but you'd better be pretty well financed.
     
  5. patrick66
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    You are looking for what is called a "toterhome", as pictured above. The standard "toy hauler" travel trailers are not big enough for a car, unless you are wanting to haul a Metropolitan or a Smart car. Plus, the weight bias with a 2,500# car in the back, versus a couple of big bikes or ATVs, makes a big difference in how it tows.

    There are always big toters on places like www.racingjunk.com and such. A new rig costs a fortune! A used rig can be had for much less, and many are cl***ified and registered as an RV, so no CDL is needed to drive one. Be prepared to lay out the $$$, in any event.
     
  6. plym_46
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    Nice trucks but ya gotta go on Who wants to be a millionaire????

    What ever happened ot an old School bus, transport camper, viewing platform, cheap, lots with diesels, some are geared for over the road. Only problem is deck height, but I have seen the beavertailed, even saw one with a rollback deal fabed into the rear end. should haul 6 or 7k lbs no problem. Some even have storage space under the floor.
     
  7. rusty28a
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    A rollback on a school bus? I like it!
     
  8. A friend's neighbor bought a trailer from a drag racing team. It's a Gooseneck-hitch, lowboy, tandem axle two-car hauler, about 38 feet in length. Up front is a 14' enclosed, air conditioned compartment, just like a small camper trailer, but fixed to the front half of the trailer. The racing team had it set up with a pair of bunk beds, sink, ****ter, and toolboxes, but my friends neighbor converted it into a nicer camper for longer stays. The rear outside of the compartment has a tire rack, and then the race car sits behind it and it's a dovetail. He said it pulls nicely with no car, and even better with a car. I thought it was pretty *****in.
     
  9. Hot Rod Dirty's
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    A rollback with a trailer built around it would be ideal
     
  10. bobwop
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    I built my Willys hauler from a Duramax/Allison box truck. Car goes right up inside on ramps with a winch. Close the door and lock it. Has a hitch, so I can pull a trailer. I usually do with another race car inside. Slick setup and you wouldn't believe me if I told you what my investment was
     
  11. Hot Rod Dirty's
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    I have to have some with with a good level ramp, my hot rode only has 2 inches of ground clearance.
     
  12. bulletproof1
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    we used one kinda like this to haul our rockbuggy.it had room for buggy (about the size of a T-bucket) ,a rhino,large tool box, extra set of 40'' tires.it had shelfs and work bench. the sleeper area had full bed ,stove ,shower and a living area.heat & a/c ,this one had 3 axles..it was really nice being selfcontained....takes a good truck to pull and stop......
     
  13. Bullet...yeah triple axle, that's what his had, not tandem. I just know it was a converted two-car hauler with a large sleeper area. Very cool setup on it. He's been talking about converting it into a boat hauler though.
     
  14. yoyodyne
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    I have the enclosed version of that. The beauty of a trailer is that if your tow vehicle has trouble, you can stick another one under the front of the trailer and keep moving. This is mine, 43' overall, 25' of floor in the back, workbench, cabinets, engine hoist, generator will run a TIG welder, 2" of ground clearance is no problem. I can make a U turn anywhere the pickup will make a u-turn.

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  15. Verminator
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    Maybe you need a 73 chevy wedge hauler project---Hint, Hint....ditched the ****py 73 body and picked up a 54 chevy 4400 cab for it. 350 targetmaster with 4 speed ask $2000
     
  16. GMCBubba's got one of the coolest ex-bus setups ever! :cool:
     
  17. Deuce Roadster
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    I would rather just buy a trailer :rolleyes:

    Taxes and insurance on a Toter Home ... plus upkeep and fuel mileage ADD UP quickly. You can pick up a used enclosed box for as little as 3 grand ( maybe less ). A Warn #4500 winch runs about 4 hundred.

    A decent used truck and trailer cost LESS than a Toter or a converted truck. They are easier to sell also. My 2004 Chevrolet Silverado , pulling a 22 foot V-nose enclosed trailer gets a little better than 11 miles to a gallon. Toters and big trucks do not get that type of fuel mileage. Gas is less expensive than Diesel also. Some states do not even require tags and insurance on trailers. The liability insurance of the tow vehicle also covers the trailer. Collision on the tow vehicle does NOT include the trailer. Or that is the way it is in my state.

    Security is another plus of the enclosed trailer over a open trailer.
    BUT it can be a PAIN IN the a$$ ... towing one if you are not prepared or do not have a good truck. :(

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  18. inliner54
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    What about one of those horse haulers with living quarters. Some of those rigs are nice and are built pretty stout horses weigh a lot so maybe with some customization you could make it work?
     
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  19. Hot Rod Dirty's
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    Thanks for the suggestions guys, looking like I might have to come up with a truck to pull the trailer if that is the option I go with.
     
  20. JeffreyJames
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    Have you seen the Tuck & Kevin Lee trip to Austin with the Ranchero pulling the Coupe????? Single axle....enough said.
     
  21. JOECOOL
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    my buddy and I are looking at these right now. Our Frugal attempt shall be a used enclosed trailer and then a small travel trailer that is hail damaged or slightly wrecked. Take a lot of the guts out of the travel trailer ,windows and all and then installing in the car trailer. We will save some room by putting the bed over the hood on the car (yes I mean with a wall). Looks like a queen size bed will fit with about 14 foot for living quarters ,18 foot for the car. If we can get a trailer longer than 32 foot so much the better. The problem with the bed over the front of the car is there will be no access back and forth inside. Best of luck.
     
  22. patrick66
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    The "gas is less expensive than Diesel" statement is false economy. My '06 Dodge ***mins PU gets 22 on the highway, and over 15 pulling the hauler. The '06 Hemi gas equivalent model gets maybe 13 empty. The few cents more I spend on Diesel per gallon is paid back to me in spades in better mileage, a truck that lasts FAR longer and has waaay better resale value than a gas truck can ever dream of.
     
  23. Big Dad
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    I have a 30 foot , enclosed with shower, toliet, air ..etc.

    And pull it with a Dodge dually, I weighed all the options and for me, this was the best idea I came up with

    Sadly, I don't get to use it much, work keeps me hopping these days trying to stay alive until it gets better ..
     

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  24. Hot Rod Dirty's
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    You need to take into that equation, however, the large premium paid to buy the diesel engine up front. When taking the cost premium into consideration, fuel economy alone is not enough to make the diesel engine the proper choice. Only if the gas engine does not pull enough wieght does it make complete sense.
     
  26. Mr48chev
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    A company that was originally started by a friend of mine in MGregor, Texas will build a s**** living quarters in the front of a 5th wheel trailer. These are nice enough that even the highest maintenance significant other would be happy to stay in one. http://www.dusterconversions.com/

    I'll just happily drive my 48 and pull a teardrop trailer to crash in when I hit the far away rod events.

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  27. gardenjeg
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    We haul our fenderless cars in a 14ft. motorcycle trailer its built with dropped axels dual 3500# has a beavertail easy to load and the car fits in ther like a glove. Pull it with a diesel Jeep Cherokee or Cl*** C motorhome lets you take your take your car to events or just great for camping!
     
  28. patrick66
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    On average, one pays about $5K to $6K more for a Diesel pickup over an otherwise identically-equipped truck. Until those trucks reach 20 years old or so, the Diesel pickup will retain that added value difference. After that, they tend to get a little more equal in value, but not much. Case in point, I recently sold my old Dodge ***mins 4x2 Club Cab dually 3500. The book value of the ***mins versus the V-10 or V-8 3500 Dually CC was nearly THREE times the difference - $8,600 versus $3,100. That is for a truck with 180K miles! I can buy a lot of Diesel fuel with that difference. Plus, that gas truck will be on its second engine by 150K miles, while the Diesel pickup will last three to four times that. I know at least two Dodge ***mins trucks locally with nearly a million miles each. Haven't seen gas trucks do that. The "gas is cheaper" arguement just doesn't fly at all if you want a REAL pulling truck. A gas truck is great...for groceries and parts. For a toy, a gas truck is fine. For doing any real work, or real towing above 5,000 pounds, the gas truck will always run second. I've owned gas and Diesel pickups. I'll never tow anything more than 3,500 pounds with a gas pickup. They are weak gas hogs.

    I've pulled close to 20K pounds with my ***mins trucks when I had my trailer business, and they weren't even breathing hard. Try that routinely with a gas truck, and you are walking...more than likely, to a dealership that has a nice Diesel pickup in stock!

    See how many gas haulers you can find...my guess is zero!

    But, hey, if a weak gas truck does it for you, cool
     
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  29. bobwop
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    I have been towing large loads for many years...at least thirty. Until the Duramax was installed in the GM trucks, it was a chore and a constant worry for finding fuel. I always worried about and often experienced overheating. I will wholeheartedly agree that if you are going to pull large loads (I am talking in excess of 15,000 GVW), then the diesel is a no-brainer.

    My current truck has 225,000 miles on it and I have pulled loads in excess of 30,000lbs. Would you believe the original brake pads weren't replaced until 180,000 miles?! It costs more to change the oil, but it happens less often, call it a wash. Fuel is just slightly higher per gallon, but when pulling my mileage is double that of my last gas powered truck (2003 model).

    I would NEVER go back to a gasoline powered truck for towing. On the other hand, if it is occasional, then a gasoline powered truck would suffice.

    NOW, back to the topic of haulers....
     

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