Hot Rods Car registration in California

Different state

 

It all match he . Didn't like that whoever painted it remove the serial number plate and place it back with rivets not with the correct hardware

 

You muddled up the post with confusing ramble about "sold as a '48 but it's actually a '50" and "all the paperwork matched until we noticed two numbers swapped" then finish with "the only issue is the rivets not being correct hardware" so let's just focus on the rivets.

I'd say you can either attempt to get a legit assigned California vin IF that is even an option (did the CHP vin verifier discuss your options?), you can part it out, or you can sell the truck to someone in another State. The key here is this ... supply the buyer with the correct screws (you can get them off another scrap vehicle) and explain to the potential buyer where/how you got the panel, and why you are selling/can't register it in Cal. This way YOU aren't the one swapping the rivets or misleading anyone. If the rivets are swapped for correct screws (by the new buyer), the panel should pass vin verification in any other State IF one is even required (assuming the new State doesn't have access to the California information/data base that shows it failed vin verification in California and why).

Keep in mind, I got my law degree from a broken thermometer

 

Nice panel truck.

 

It's very unlikely that you'll solve this problem in this thread. The last time I tried calling DMV headquarters in Sacramento, it was switched to the main DMV phone line. So, I don't know if we can still reach headquarters and get straighter answers. I would try calling this person. They haven't been on here for years, but their phone number is on their profile page.

https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/no-vin-no-title-ca-dmv-registration.494669/#post-5454153

 

I see what you mean once I noticed thr second and third digits were reverse the rabbit hole open up . The CHP ask for picture if I had any I did gave them a copy the reply was that the serial.number plate was definitely a reproduction so dangummet

 

I would just trailer it to events and enjoy it as much as you can off the street until you figure something out.

 

If By some far off chance the frame is original would.there be any numbers on it and.if so where ?

 

If the serial number plate is a reproduction, what is left (if anything) on the car that matches the serial number? What I mean is, how can you or anyone prove that ownership matches that car?

Here's what I think ... California will (based on your experience) not accept this car, proven by you failing the vin verification process. Your best bet is to try to sell it in the State that it is presently titled in (the State you bought it from I assume) because it appears that State accepted it/doesn't have an issue with how it's titled.

Edit: I just read your recent post. I have no idea if the frame is stamped anywhere. Hopefully someone will get you an answer.

 

No frame numbers that I know of on AD trucks...they started in the mid 50s

 

Dangummet that what I thought

 

I have been thinking about that

 

If it was an obvious typo that be one thing. You had the extra serial/vin numbers in more than one spot that made it obvious that there was a typo. There is probably more vin id and year id on little birds than most other Pre Mustang Fords combined as far as details on how to tell.

As others said, Chevy advance design trucks don't have any numbers stamped on the frames no matter what Ford guys claim as gospel. Chevrolet advance design engine serial numbers NEVER match the door post tag or come close. If it is the original engine it will tell you that that engine was installed in a certain year and certain model truck that should be the same year and model as the door post number says if all things are copesetic. A good number of states used the engine serial number as the "vin" up until the mid 50's. I have one 51 1-1/2 ton with an Oregon title with the engine serial number as the vin and no engine. I'm leaving the Oregon plate from 1984 with it's rusted and bent bracket right where it is on the frame until I go in to get and engine change designation on the title if I ever do anything with it. That plate number is on the title.

State inspectors don't give a rippy doo dah about the printed material on the door post plate, all they care about is that that stamped number matches the number on the title and that that plate has never been disturbed. As I said before, the Washington state patrol inspector took his knife and scraped several layers of paint off my door post tag in 1977 to read the number and that is how that tag is today.

AD truck door post serial numbers are pretty cut and dried as far as year goes.
47/52 trucks use 4 digits and then the production number starting at 1001.
First digit = plant
second digit = year
third digit = series (3100/3600/3800 4000, ---) Nothing in the serial number as to pickup, burb or panel
4th = month.
Production number. That I have never found out if it was the production number for year or month or model in that plant. I have never found info on that.
A 48 will have an F for the year and a 50 will have an H for the year.

Still, Jeff's main problem is that he didn't confirm that the serial number matched the vin on the title when he picked the truck up including confirming that it was the body serial number and not the engine serial number if the engine had been changed.
That title probably belonged to a 1/2 ton pickup back in the 70's when you had to be 48 or earlier to get into rod runs and some places did check registrations on AD trucks to make sure you were not trying to sneak a 49 or later truck in. I had people at the gate ask to see my registration slip when I registered at some events back then as the hard core pre 48 guys thought all AD trucks were 53 model trucks. Guys did buy hulks with titles to get the 47 or 48 title.

 

Maryland title

 

Maryland I did send the CHP some pictures before and after of what the previous owner did and it shows the two different licenses plates one from Pennsylvania and after he registered it in Maryland the serial number was incorrect from Pennsylvania no inspection needed in either state so if.your dyslexic would have never noticed

 

Sorry about the muddle
Once the AAA lady noticed that 2 and 3 digit were flip everything else came to.light

 

Me too

 

If it was an out of state title you have to have a vin verification to transfer/register here in CA. You would have had the same problem...wrong fasteners on the ID tag, and wrong numbers. You said you checked the paperwork and it matched...then it doesn't? I know its Monday morning quarterbacking and a little piling on
..but you know how you could have prevented this? Asking the seller for a picture of the title/paperwork and ID tag before buying it.

I'd pursue the seller. In this deal, the vehicle you are getting has to be registerable and have clean paperwork. Otherwise what's the point? Raise a stink. I'm assuming it was shipped out here. You might have to eat the shipping...but I bet that's lower than the price you paid for the panel.

 

Not having the CHP impound your truck is a positive, leads me to believe a solution can be found...I have seen this movie.

 

It doesn't have to be registerable if the seller states "as-is/where is with no guarantees of any kind". Keep in mind, the seller isn't the registered owner as this was an estate sale. There was also no reason for the seller to believe this vehicles current registration couldn't be transferred as it was apparently registered without issue in the State it was sold in. The problems appeared when the new owner brought it to California and it was subjected to a vin verification.

Solution is to take it back to the State it is currently registered in and sell it there.

 

Maybe politely talk to the seller and he or she will take it back.