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Technical Case hardened slotted nut source

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by tarheelrodr, Oct 28, 2025 at 7:23 PM.

  1. tarheelrodr
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    I know, a bit of an odd post but I’ve got a situation with a stripped rear axle threads on my 34 banjo rear. I know I should replace the axle and I have a spare but I just got my pickup on the road and I am not feeling it to tear it all apart just yet.

    The threads on this axle were a little suspect when I put it together but had a buddy who used his thread file on it to clean it up. I thought it would be fine until Sunday when I decided to re-torque both axles nuts after clocking my first 130 miles. It won’t torque more than 50 ft lbs so I added a drum retainer for safety’s sake.

    so my plan is tap the threads down one size to 9/16-18” but I cannot source online any case hardened slotted nuts this size.

    Any one have an online source for such a fastener? Did Ford use this size nut? If so what’s the part number?

    thanks
     
  2. squirrel
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    814-065

    Why hardened?
     
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  4. tarheelrodr
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    well grade 5 nor 8 provide the torque spec required over 200 ft lb. Guess I could go with grade 8 which can be torques to 170.
     
  5. squirrel
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    if you make the thread on the axle smaller, you probably won't be able to tighten it to 200 ft lbs, will you?
     
  6. squirrel
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    get a lug nut, 611-125 or similar, and cut your own slots into the beveled side?
     
  7. rusty valley
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    One of these might help, it restores threads from the inside out. Really, you need to replace the axle, 50 lb torque aint gonna work. 4B24C3FE-14B3-46D1-B010-1FFBFB5F6B1A.jpeg
     
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  8. 31 Coupe
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    Case hardening steel is usually 8620 which only has 0.2% Carbon and would be around 60Rc x ~0.010" deep, so it doesn't offer any extra tensile strength over a #8 nut.
    If anything, it would be very brittle.
     
  9. Toms Dogs
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  10. tarheelrodr
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    used one of those thread files already to clean up the threads before I assembled the rear. Thanks

    the only reason I say case hardened is I read somewhere that the original Ford 5/8” nut is.
     
  11. squirrel
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    It might be more important that it have a larger hex and be thicker than a normal nut.
     
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  12. Joe H
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    Not sure if you have the room, but a coupler nut would engage a lot more of the threads. Mc Master-Carr lists grade 8 coupler nuts.
     
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  13. squirrel
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    that's when a lathe comes in handy, to make a larger part the right size to fit what you're working on
     
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  14. 1971BB427
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    The best nuts and threads around in 9/16"-18 might not be able to torque to 200 ft. lbs.
     
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  15. Johnny Gee
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    Clear “case” of a “hard” headed “nut” philosophy. :)

    Just swap out the axle and be done with it. Really, it’s not a like your 100 miles away from home and a quick get me by is required.
     
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  16. tarheelrodr
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    Just looked up my old thread where I mentioned the spare axle is one of the “made in Argentina” ones. I discovered I mentioned in that post that it would not fit inside the diff housing.

    so now, once again, the search is now on for a good used axle. Let me know if you got one..!!
     

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