Technical Ceramic wax spray coatings. Any good? Your results?

I see that all of the wax manufacturers are now offering spray-on, wipe off ceramic wax products and detail shops are offering machine buffing along with their proprietary ceramic products. Looks like it's going to be a big deal going forward or is it just another snake oil? Has anyone used these products or services? What was your result? Love it or forget it.?......Thanks for any input.........Don.

 

Right after you spend a pile of dough to put a high gloss clear to cover the rust.... you can make it shine.

 

May require a slightly different technique, Cob.

 

When I think of ceramic, I think of coarse, pitted full of tiny holes, and abrasive, not smooth and slick, even though some ceramic is smooth, the holes and pits are just finer. Not what I want to rub on shiny paint!

 

I can't believe nobody has tried any of this stuff on their shiny cars.

 

.......I remember old timers telling me they used baking soda to wax the cars! Maybe they mixed it with the kerosene.

 

Does it have 'Nano Technology?'

Thought that was the new hot poop.

I'm curious though, since I have two shiny cars now. But I have enough tins of 25 year old wax to last my lifetime.

Try the Porsche forum..

 

Nano, that's so old now...Just messin' with you. I just wonder if this "ceramic" thing is another marketing ploy or is there really science behind it.

 

No

 

The stuff isn't cheap, like twice the price of the "spray and wax" stuff that all of the companies market.

 

With dealerships offering these "ceramic coating" services it sounds like it might be best suited for vehicles with clear-coat finishes. Maybe not such a big deal on lacquers or enamels. No personal experience with this stuff, though.

 

I've used it on my shiny cars, two are black. It does work in the sense that water beads up on the surface just like hand waxing. It is quick to use but if it's on too long or isn't rinsed off completely it leaves a white haze that you have to apply again or hand wax it off. My conclusion is that a hand rubbed Meguires 26 out of a can can't be beat but if you don't have time for that, the spray on rinse off stuff is better than nothing. Also, I clay bar the paint first to get the paint clean.

 

I don’t know anything about the spray ceramics or how they work. I have seen some of the multi stage ceramic treatments where they clay bar, compound, buff and then use a liquid ceramic and buff again and cars look absolutely fantastic. It is supposed to be a five year finish. Very expensive! However I suspect with all the prep any coating/wax would look great. Like paint work it is all in the prep work as to how it turns out.

 

Ajax did a good job on old paint.

 

That's exactly what the original Model A Owner's Manual recommended!

 

I'm curious to know how exactly a ceramic coating works. My only understanding of ceramic is it's something that is cured at high temperatures.

A quick look at Wiki says silicon may be considered a ceramic. Maybe that's the catch.

Ceramic material is an inorganic, non-metallic, often crystalline oxide, nitride, or carbide material. Some elements, such as carbon or silicon, maybe considered ceramics.

 

Ceramic sprays are Silicon Dioxide. They work very well and are long lasting (months on regular use vehicles). They are super easy to apply, literally spray on, wipe onto the surface with micro fibre cloth and then buff with micro fibre cloth. They actually cure so they bond to the paint unlike a wax that just sits on the surface. They are highly hydrophobic so bead water like crazy. They will provide UV and chemical protection to your paint as well. You should not use them in direct sunlight or on a warm vehicle as they will dry too quickly. Basically they are a high tech wax that are way easier to use.

 

I use them on our two daily drivers. The paint manufacture representatives I asked about there removal told me that ordinary wax and grease removal products should work well on them. Since they seen to loose some of there beading properties over time, I apply them twice a year. I like them for protection, but I am not one to rate their shine properties.

 

A good friend of mine did his 59 Buick, original paint. I noticed a definite difference after the ceramic paste was applied, he said it was a chore to apply, but then again there is a lot of car to wax ..the spray may be easier...

 

I occasionally use the spray detailer stuff, like if the car is a little dusty and I want to take a photo. But I've had the spray bottle for a number of years and I haven't used it up yet. When I do, I may pop for the "ceramic" stuff next time. I won't mind paying a little more because the bottle will probably last for years also.

 

Ceramic coatings and ceramic sprays are two different things. One is a long term (years) product and one is a short term product (months). A car has to be completely detailed and paint corrected before a ceramic coating is applied because it will show every imperfection there is and will not come off without a ton of work. It is also a very labour intensive application process. This is why getting them professionally installed is very expensive and why they are not a great DYI product.

 

Again detailer sprays and ceramic sprays are not the same and cannot be used interchangeably. One is a cleaner and one is a protectant. You do not want to spray a ceramic spray on a car with dust, finger prints smudges etc.

 

Once you put that stuff on your paint , you can’t get it off with anything but sandpaper ! So you can not do any paint blending if you bend it up ,,,think about that .???.

 

On my OT work trucks we tried turtle wax car wash soap with some ceramic additive and all the fancy stuff. It Took way more soap (approx 6or 7 times as much) to clean the truck and did not notice any difference in shine or ease of keeping clean. Went back to the Meguires that I've used previous 12 years and won't switch again.


This is soap not an after detail type product so those might be worthwhile just saying don't waste your cash on ceramic wash in my optinion.

 

Not true at all.

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Maybe the poor folks did......
The ones with money used Johnsons Car Nu! Didn't you listen to Fibber McGee and Molly? They were sponsored by Johnson's Wax. Harlo Wilcox was always hyping the great things Car Nu did for your car. Then when Fibber and Molly got a house in Wistfull Vista, Wilcox changed to hype Johnsons Glo Coat floor wax.



No, I'm not old enough to have listened when the show was on the air live, but I'm a fan and listen on XM Radio Classics. I bet Mark even has a Car Nu can or two in his collection!

 

Well Dave, 29 posts, what's the verdict ?