Technical chevy small block experts

I have a L82 small block and the oil pan conflicts with the pickup. The front of the pickup is 10 inches from the rear oil pan mtg holes which puts it too far forward, ie it hits the pan. What do I need to get this to work.

 

Man, you gotta give us a little more than that to go on!

 

Never had any SBC that was fancy. But I bet an oil pan with out a baffle and a windage tray should do the trick.

 

The Corvette pans of those years were more capacity than a standard sbc pan by a quart if I remember right. The added capacity was because the sump area went further forward. My sons 75 Vette is this way although we are running a standard pan and pickup on it. So, sounds like you have a standard 5 quart pan but original pickup possibly.

 

Far from an expert; but it looks like that pick-up tube extends further forward from the pump than I'm used to seeing.

 

Maybe it just isn’t rotated down enough? Hard to tell from the angle of the pic.

 

The pickup tube rotates on the pump, the pickup rotates on the tube - before they're welded or brazed. Should be able to move these around for correct depth.

If the pan is specific to vette you may need a specific pickup tube. Or clearance the baffle in the sump.

We're these parts all together at one time and you're rebuilding ? Or is this a new pan or new pickup tube ?

 

Far from an expert, but could it be you think you will just lift the pan into place without having to slip it over the splash shield. Cause that won't likely happen. It's also not uncommon to have to remove and reposition a pickup. Or worse case a little heat and a bend to the tube but not if your using factory parts and pan in most instances.
That's why I secure the pan gasket into place first, because it does get handled getting the pan on over that shield.

 

Thanks for the pics. I need that smaller pickup. My oil pan is new which is the problem because the
original vette pan was larger.

 

also, is it best to put the one piece gasket on the pan or engine first?? The rear seal part sits in a groove and I want to make sure the gasket fits there without an issue.

 

You answered your own question on the pick-up vs pan. Fit the gasket to the block, measure the height of the new pick up from the gasket, measure the depth of the pan and subtract the difference to verify the correct clearance from the bottom of the pan. The only variable will be the slight compression of the gasket. Test fit the pan to make sure everything fits properly. Some times new sheet metal can be a little wonky.

 

You need a Corvette Oil Pan



or a standard SBC pickup

 

HP4's used to be great. Now I hear they make great presto logs.

 

Fram oil lifter?

 

Is that what’s going on with lifters today?

 

You might want to get a new pump as well as the pickup, and tack weld them together when you get the correct pickup height figured out. Pressing the pickup into the pump takes some effort and perhaps a special tool you can make, to fit around the lip on the tube.

Make sure the pickup tube you get is for the same application as the pan is for. You didn't tell us, so we can only guess.

Have fun!

 

Still are great .
The Fram HP series is the filter of choice for Oval / Road Racers down our way [I haven't seen one cause engine failure in 45+ years]

Most Fram haters don't compare "Apples for Apples"
It is easy to rubbish a "made in asia" chain store filter against a quality USA made one

 

Yea, I have used the filters at times... I just didn’t know they made lifters...

 

5/8" open end wrench and a hammer

 

And how do you support/backup the pump body before some sends half of their pump flying off the oil pump?

 

I take the pump apart and tig the pick up on.

 

Looking for a pic of L82 pick up tube

Found your other thread on the vette forums with pics of standard and L82 specific pick up tubes.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/c3-tech-performance/4690393-l82-oil-pickup.html



If this is going in anything other than a Vette, that long sump may be an issue with crossmember or steering clearance.

 

Well that settles it , he's gonna die , probably take his neighborhood with him !

 

I've seen a lot of tig welded pickups crack the pump housing and fall off. Not saying all of em, 2 or 3 is enough. I'd recommend low temp silver solder and sweat it in that way. Dissimilar metals and all. To be fair the fails were on all out racers that ran mostly WFO. Your results may vary, tax n ***le extra, void where prohibited, no purchase necessary, see your retailer for details...

 

TIG with silicone bronze rod.

It's low temperature, and great for dissimilar metals.

 

That settles it; get the regular pickup(and pump if you like) and then it's matched to the new pan.

 

This is a good method. If any serious heat is used it would be wise to check the flatness of the pump cover and check/ set the proper impeller end play while your at it.

 

I was reading that the 84-85 models started using a one piece oil pan gasket which seems real nice BUT I have a 1975 L82 (with a new 4 qt pan). The only difference I know between the small blocks is the side the dipsick is on which the one piece gasket has provisions for both. Are there other differences like the groove at the rear main. Would hate to use the one piece and then it leaked but it sure makes the install a breeze.

 

thru 74ish: smaller opening at the front of the pan where it meets the timing cover, uses a thin front seal between cover and pan

74ish through 79ish: bigger opening, thicker seal. Still driver side dipstick.

80ish through 85ish: p*** side dipstick, still two piece crank seal

86ish-up: one piece rear seal

 

So I have a 70's L82, drivers dip stick. The gaskets that come on the engine were a 3 piece setup but I really like the 1 piece. So do I need to put the pan on and look at the front timing cover thickness (the timing cover is new from jegs). I am more concerned with the groove in the rear main bearing cap for a decent. One piece is cool but not sure it will work. It also has a bump out for p***enger dipstick which I am not fond of. This is an area where I dont want to mess up.