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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Chris Haynes, Oct 14, 2024.

  1. I have noticed that the Chevy Pressure Plate doesn't match up with the fingers on the Ford Throwout Bearing. What is the best fix? Re drill the flywheel to accept the Ford pressure plate comes to mind. Is there a better, more correct way?
     
  2. Pretty sure you need to use the ford pressure plate.
     
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  3. alchemy
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    I don’t know why anyone would build such a mongrel, but I think it requires a 50 Merc clutch plate, or sumsuch.
     
  4. Budget36
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    I had a ‘48 F1 I bought for the SBC, don’t recall a lot about things, but it was mated to the F1 transmission with a Wilcap 307c adapter.
    But the cost of the adapter if buying new(if still made) would get you a Saginaw 3/4 speed, probably as strong as a F1 transmission?
     
  5. I have the Chevy flywheel in the shop being resurfaced and drilled to accept the Ford 11" clutch. I found an Offenhauser engine to trans adapter and Hurst saddle type front motor mount. It looks like it is going to be a pretty easy swap.
     
  6. Since when is a SBC into an early Ford a mongrel?
     
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  7. Borg and peck pressure plate is what you're needing. Apparently bolts right to a Chevy sb flywheel
     
  8. PotvinV8
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    I think that was in reference to the engine/trans combo.
     
  9. alchemy
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    Slightly tongue in cheek comment, from a flathead man.
     
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  10. Mr48chev
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    It's one of those Ford in a Ford only thing that those guys who never have a running car use to razz guys with Chevys in old Fords that drive the wheels off them. I think they have a secret points system that they keep track of how many off the wall comments they made about it.

    Back to the subject at hand it does take a mix and match batch of parts to make it work.
    The 50 Mercury pressure plate that Alchemy referred to is correct. This thread from a few years back gives you the details and even some photos that set things straight. https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum...er-the-bench-to-a-early-ford-3-speed.1249589/
     
  11. Since the first one was swapped.
     
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  12. chevyfordman
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    The Mercury PP is almost impossible to get so call Fort Wayne Clutch and Driveline, he fixed me up with a PP that mounts to the Chevy flywheel and uses the Ford throw out bearing.
     
  13. From Ft. Wayne Clutch:
    #1310 Borg and Beck pressure plate, Ford 10 spline disc, early Ford T/O bearing, Chevy flywheel with B&B bolt pattern. Cragar Chevy to Ford trans adapter, block mounted late model stock GM gear drive starter. Core charge on pressure plate is $90 !!
    Hard to find. If you call, talk to Lou.
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  14. A Boner
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    Ease up on the flathead bashing…the BS on my lawnmower is bullet proof and always starts on the first or second pull.
     
  15. Mr48chev
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    Hopefully it is all in jest just to get the hard core flathead guys undies in a knot. At least they have cars that usually run and we see photos of a lot of those flathead cars in action unlike a lot of the hard car Ford in a Ford or else radical who's avatar is a roached out early 60's Ford sedan and the only time they ever even post is when the throw out their ferd in a ferd stuff.
    Now before anyone goes Ford Radical on me. My daily right now is a 77 F250 with a 300 six and 4 speed. It even fits close to being a patina rig but isn't that rusty.
    Add to that I have and 8BA that I have spent more money on than I had in my 48 when I drove it to the street rod Nationals in Tulsa in 73.
    I have a Ford Flathead six that a Hamber gave to me so I could put it in a boat tail roadster I am building with a F-1 floor shift 3 speed to go with it. Funny thing is that the frame for the roadster is Chevy .
    One group on FB only knows me for my BMW and have no idea that I have custom trucks or hot rods.

    Still guys take some things real too serious and forget that the main thing about hot rods or custom cars has to be having fun with cars With the main thing here on the Hamb being that they are built with what was available before 1965 or what looks like what was available before 1965. Meaning that if it was available when I was in high school or could have been done when I was in high school or before life is good.
     
  16. chevyfordman
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    This is what Lou sold me so I'm excited to try it out. IMG_2584.jpeg
     
  17. wheeltramp brian
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    Anything
    That Fort Wayne clutch sells is great. Nothing but good products for me.
     
  18. Bandit Billy
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    This is what Urban Dictionary has to say on the subject. I think it sums it up quite clearly.
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