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chopping the top on a 38 ford tudor

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Excatman, Oct 26, 2005.

  1. Excatman
    Joined: Oct 24, 2005
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    anyone have any experience or know of any places that I could get info and pictures in progress?
     
  2. Muttley
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    Leave the roof alone and concentrate on the rest of the car.
     
  3. Petejoe
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    I really dont believe any 35 through 40 fords need any chopping.
    I have never seen anything improved over what Ford has designed.
    Save your chopping skills on 28 through 34 hot rods and 41 through 54 customs. Drop that baby and you're good to go.
     
  4. Geeeezzz-you guys sound like :rolleyes: restorers!;)
     
  5. blue collar guy
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    Not yet but we are starting to chop one on Monday. But we chop everything. The roors are to big on those cars. We have been working on this car for 8 months the car was all most ready for paint. The guy who owns the car stops by every week to shoot the shit and over the last 4 weeks we have done 3 chops . So he starts asking questions and we talk about it for awhile. So he say do it . We should be starting it on monday. I'm never sure exatly how much I will chop out of some thing untill I start dropping the top. We are thinking around three inchs. I will post some pictures when we get started. Scott
     
  6. Muttley
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    No, we sound like guy's with good taste.
     
  7. DrJ
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    Look up some pictures of some Australian "slopers".
    Prettiest Ford Sedans on the planet.
    It's a "fastback" version of the American fat-butt 38-40 sedan.
    Your 3" chop would look great if that's the A pillar drop with 4"-6" at the C pillar and the 1/4 panels pie-cut to lay the whole trunk area down for the "sloper" look.
    Take some of that "hat room" out just in front of the back window.
    Move the B pillar and keep it verticle.
    Yes, I've chopped a top before... :cool:
     
  8. blue collar guy
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    That sounds good. I was planning on thickening the b pillar by about an inch and thinning out the rear of the door frame by about an inch. I never liked the look of the door piller. Thanks Scott
     
  9. Sounds like a good way to mess up what was one of Ford's nicer looking cars.

    JH
     
  10. look for post from Flynj1 on the short 37. He is doing a car for a guy locally that he chopped.
     
  11. No Muttley you guys in Cali are too cheap to pay to end up with a cooler looking car that is chopped![all in the name of restoring]Ha!

    A 3" chop is about perfect on the 37- 39 and even 40 Ford sedans...
    Hell they look like a fuckin clown car, stock.....
     

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  12. chopolds
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    Whack that sucker!
    Is the roof similar to a Caddy's? Look for the post on "who's got finished pictures of Kustom7777's Cadillac?" a few pages down. You can get some tips from that. It wasn't really hard to do technically, just good planning, and thinking it out.
     
  13. The 40 above is chopped 3" at front and 2"at rear......
     
  14. seymour
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    NICE! i think we had a thread about this a yr or two ago. I think we were the only two that agreed that they look good, if done right.
     
  15. Ha!-Seymour......any car designed when Fedoras were worn is too fucking tall.....unless you like what I call "the picture window"-look.....:D
    Thats a Cali' car that is dumped on the pavement -then they take out the Ford gasket in the glasses and install dark glass with a slim,late model gasket....RESULTING IN...a look that resembles the glass in an office building when you pass by.....!
    It actually -not only results in a 1-1/2 inch taller glass -but the amount of chassis drop amplifies the problem as well....But hell we couldn't know shit cause we're hillbillys! he he!
     
  16. DrJ
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    Are you going to change the window mechanism also?
    The reason for that wide door pillar is because from '34 to '39, Ford's door glass moved back a small amount to act like a vent window before rolling down into the door.
    The pillar is hollow for the door glass to move back into it.
    If you are changing that mechanism this is immaterial.
     
  17. Petejoe
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    Not many look good even when done right.
    Flyn1 had an abortion that he made a hell of a hot rod out of.


    This one is as close as it comes...

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=45106

    [​IMG]
     
  18. Petejoe- sorry to interject-

    But this takes us right back to Muttleys statement on having good or bad taste........That coupes roof skin is stretched too much and makes the quarter window look weird and the roof kind flat lookin....[only In my humble amateur opinion].
     
  19. blue collar guy
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    That is one way not to do it. Some time my head itches but I dont put my hand up my ass and scatch it from the inside. we will see next week I think I got it figured out.How to chop it alot easier way. Scott
     
  20. Well, I've got a Sloper, AND I'm chopping it! Plan is for full Westergard style early custom. I'll post pics as I get along the trail.
     

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  21. loogy
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    Please keep us informed.
     
  22. That is without a doubt THE WORST possible method I ever saw at chopping any top.............pure nonsense.
     

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