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Technical Chrysler/Lasalle in a '39/'40, who's done it?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by falcongeorge, Jun 21, 2014.

  1. falcongeorge
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    If you have ever swapped a chrysler hemi and cad/lasalle trans combo into a '39/40 ford, I'd like to hear how it fit. Was it a extended bellhousing block? How much metal did you cut? Did you split the front bones? Cut the X-member? Did you adapt it to the torque-tube or open drive? Have to hammer/cut the firewall? ect, ect. Lets hear your experiences with this deal.
     
  2. falcongeorge
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    Gonna give this a bump. Cmon, SOMEBODY on here has done this...
     
  3. TomWar
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    in 1959 I did that in a 36 Ford coupe. I had put the body on a 39 frame (same as 36)
    It was a 56/short bell housing. cut out the X member and made a cross member
    for the rear trans mount. I cut the firewall and split the wish bones. open driveline with a Pontiac Rearend. THe front fenders had a small triangular piece cut out for valve cover clearance.
    a few years before we put a 53 in a 40 with lots of clearance.
     
  4. falcongeorge
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    Thanks Tom. So the last sentence of your post indicates that prior to the '36 you put a long bellhousing 331 in a '40 without cutting anything, am I reading that right? You didnt have to recess the firewall and the X-member stayed intact? I assume you still had to cut the inner fenders for valve cover clearance? What trans did you use, early ford?

    Is the '36 narrower across the inner fenders?
     
  5. TomWar
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    The 40 used the original trans and mounts, I forget the inner fenders,but i do not think the firewall was cut. and yes the 36 is narrower in front. That was a long time ago!
     
  6. falcongeorge
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    Thanks Tom, good to know. Thats the sort of info I was looking for. Theres another thread on here that I was looking at where a guy has a hemi in a '40, I took a look at that as well. So anybody lurking this thread want to comment about how a side shift cad/lasalle box mated to the stock torque-tube is for clearance in the stock x-member? I am wondering if x-member needs some cutting to clear the shift linkage?
     
  7. 36 ROKIT
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    Until recently, I had a '40 LaSalle mocked up in my '36 for many years. It's a tight fit for a shifter conversion, unless you find one of the '60's kits that was designed for the 32-48 X member, that mounts it closer to the gearbox. Modifying a generic one is not difficult either.
    You do realize that the long LaSalle tailshaft will not work w/ a stock torque-tube? (Do a search for some options discussed in the recent past)
     
  8. falcongeorge
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    As far as I know, it will if you shorten and re-spline the output shaft, plug the extra holes in the back of the case, correct? And thanks for the input.
     
  9. 36 ROKIT
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    Basically, yes; but here are a couple of older threads w/ details and pics, utilizing the stock Ford trans. mount:
    "Lasalle Cad to Ford torque tube" and "LaSalle trans. to closed drive".
    (About 1/2 dozen newer threads from last couple of years as well.)
     
  10. falcongeorge
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    Yes, I found them. Thanks for the help. Shifter wise, the game plan is to just find a syncro-loc shifter tower and make rods and a mounting plate.
     
  11. falcongeorge
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    If anyone has more to add, especially on fitting a chrysler with minimal cutting, please feel free to chime in.
     

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