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COATS 1010 Tire Machine question...

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Mootz, Jul 19, 2006.

  1. Mootz
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    First off, I know nothing about tire machines and just really want the good bad and the ugly about this particular model. This tire machine is going to be for sale at a sale this weekend and my dad is looking at trying to buy it. It probably hasn't been used for 15 years and I have really no idea how old it is but what are the opinions on this brand and does anyone know anything about this particular model? He is a rural mailman here in Missouri and the local tire guy is thinking of going out of business which kind of leaves him hanging with flats etc...which he has regularly. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.

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  2. Mootz
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    Maybe I'll head over to the Garage Journal for this one. Thanks

    Mootz
     
  3. I am no expert, but isnt a 1010 just an earlier, smaller 2020? A picture would help. If so, very serviceable unit on steel wheels. Mag wheels can pose a problem. They sell plastic liners to cover the tooling to help protect the mag's finnish. These machines will break Crager 5 spoke style mags very easily if not paying attention. They work very good for taking apart field wheels.....very strong and dependable. I would not pay too much for it as most tire stores have converted to rim clamp style machines by now.
     
  4. MyOldBuick
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    There was a COATS 1001 model on craigslist in Kansas City recently for like $325?? It was 3 phase, something to watch for if you don't have it.
     
  5. Mootz
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    I've looked around for pictures on the web and haven't been able to find any. I'll check out Craigslist for the other one. What do you mean 3 phase? This thing will be used for stock steel wheels 14"-15"-nothing fancy, just need to get the job done and be safe etc...thanks for the input.

    Mootz
     
  6. BJR
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    I have a coats 1010. I bought it from a gas station going out of business 30 years ago, so they are very old. It works fine for steel wheels, but don't try it on any aluminum wheels, you will break them! It's eaisy to bend steel wheels while breaking the bead if you are not careful on how you position the top bead breaker. With all the aluminum wheels on cars today I would pass on a coats 1010 as it would not be very usefull. I paid $150 30 years ago for mine.
     
  7. atch
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    i'd love to have one.

    i believe that the only (major) difference between a 1010 and a 2020 is that the 2020 has the tube with holes in it that sits right under the wheel and shoots air into the tire when you're filling the tire. very helpful on radial tires.

    i've changed untold numbers of tires on one of these back when they were state of the art; before 2020's came out; over 30 years ago. i was the young part-time kid in the shop back then and any time someone came in with "mag" wheels one of the older guys booted me outta the way.

    as i recall they ran on compressed air and had no electricity hooked to them.

    oh, yeah; coats was THE brand back then.

    if you buy it, decide you don't like it, and want to sell it let me know.
     
  8. cryobug
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    A Coats 10/10 is a privative tire changer that was built in the 60’s, kind of a pain to use and a real wheel scratchier, they grab the inside of the wheel so the bead breaker doesn’t slip. Make sure you get the jam nut and tire bar with it if you buy it, it would cost much more than the machine is worth to replace them. Since all your tire shops now have to have rim clamp changers there are a lot of Coats 30/30, 40/40s pushed in the tire stores corners collecting dust, that’s what I would look for, I bought a 40/40 for $50 that needed a part and was abandoned with its tooling from a tire store that wanted to clean up a bit.
    Always keep the palm of you hand on the top of the tire bar as it rotates just in case it pops out, I had a tire store for years and had a guy that got a tooth knocked out when the bar jumped of the bead of the tire, years ago I bought a N.O.S Coats 20/20 from a municipality that broke the operators arm on the first tire they tried to change and pushed the machine in storage for years and years. Also never take the jam nut all the way off before you finish airing the tire, if the bead breaks or tire blows while it’s on the machine it most likely won’t hurt you. If you get a bead that wont brake down put a little air in the tire to stiffen the side wall a little. Good luck.
     
  9. Mootz
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    Thanks guys, he's changed a few tires in the past, probably 30 or so years ago so he may actually be more interested if it is something he may be familiar with. We have no pictures so unsure what it looks like. He won't be mounting new tires and balancing etc., just dismounting to fix flats. It sounds like it should be cheap and would be handy to have around if you know what you are doing. Keep the comments coming, I'll send him this link but I believe he's sending me to the sale for him. Thanks again for the help.

    Mootz
     
  10. 2-TONED
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    we used a good old coats 10/10 here for years. i changed a million tires with it, thousands of aluminum wheels etc... we broke something inside (i never looked at it) we set it outside for sale 250.00 sold in 10 minutes for 200.00
    no air blast on the 10/10 like the coats 20/20.
     
  11. Kool Kat
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    I bought one a few months back fer $250 in excellent condition. Works great.

    They're going fer $450 on ebay, check there fer pics.
     
  12. VAPHEAD
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    I had a 1010,I loved it.Never owned any aluminum wheels.
    Dismounted hundreds of 16" tires with it.
    It's at a pals shop back home still.
    Now I have to bride the local TIres Plus guys to remove old tires.
     
  13. chrisntx
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    from Texas .

    I have an old computer tire balancer I would like to sell $100. It can be picked up near East Texas or near the Missouri/Arkansas/Branson area
     
  14. old thread but used my 10/10 machine today to put 4 tires on my daily. saved $40 doing myself and i have had my $100 machine for 15+ years! they sell all the parts to service them.
     
  15. cobra94r
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    Hi everyone. I know this was recently resurrected. but I have a question about the Coats 10-10. Does anyone know what the maximum diameter wheel these will dismount a tire on? I see that "VapHead" stated above that he has used it on many 16" wheels. I greatly appreciate any responses. Have a great weekend and thank you in advance!!
     
  16. Consider the era these were operating - 16" wheels were truck size, most cars used 14" and there were NO 17" car tires. So, it would seem highly unlikely that it could dismount anything larger than 16".

    Cosmo
     
  17. proxman
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    I just picked up a 1010 from my Uncles garage who passed away, got it home and successfully used it on a 20" mag. although i had to mount the tire upside down so the bottom bead breaker would not engage because it misses the rim by about 1 1/2". So it could be done if needed but i wouldn't recommend doing it to a good rim on your first try. it scratched it bad but it was cracked anyways. I plan on making special tools to eliminate the damage from the tooling. will keep you posted on that.

    The tire was off a 08 avalanche.
     
  18. Richard Mulder
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    Would anyone have any idea of where to find parts for this? Or at least a parts list would be a big help
     
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