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Hot Rods Coil overs on 32 Tudor

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Harold's Speed, Apr 12, 2023.

  1. Harold's Speed
    Joined: Jan 6, 2016
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    I was wondering if anyone could give me an idea of the required spring rate on rear coil overs for a full fender 32 Ford Tudor? Nothing special about the 32 other than the battery is behind the back seat. I have looked at Speedway tech site and came up with 160 lb spring rate. I have found few coil overs that have that spring rate. One site referred to a T-bucket for a 150 lb spring rates. What are you Deuce Tudor owners using? Thanks in advance
     
  2. 19Eddy30
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    from VA

    I use
    175 on steel 32 sedan full fender
    150 on steel 32 5 full fender
     
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  3. rusty rocket
    Joined: Oct 30, 2011
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    I could look tonight. I honestly can’t remember what’s on mine.
     
  4. I would suggest adjustable QA-1, Like Rusty I don't remember what weight coilovers I used on my sedan. HRP
     
  5. krylon32
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    I always used Aldans on all the customer chassis I built and had minimal problems. A few leakers but they immediately took care of the problem nc. All the hype these days seems to be for Ride Tech. I have no idea if they are a game changer or not. They are extremely expensive. I did put a pair of Ride Tech regular shocks on the front of my new deuce highboy tudor. I've never spent $200 plus dollars each for a front shock in my life. We''l have to see if they are worth all the hype.
     
  6. DDDenny
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    from oregon

    Ditto
    I don't recall the numbers (hiboy roadster weight anyway) but you probably won't find a more complete offering than from QA-1.
    A little tip on mounting, if you have the option, make a dual bolt affair to help spread out the connection contact surface, cuts down on the "racking" affect on the bolt and if at all possible, if only using a single, don't allow bolt threads to rest on mount, also use a self locking nut.
    At one time there were aluminum versions offered (don't recall mfg), these are some steel mounts I built.

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  7. RockyMtnWay
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    Hey Doug, if you look at your pic you can see that your springs are 250#s.
    Can’t believe no one has really answered this poor chaps question yet.
    No offense eddy, but without angle included in answer Harold is still left guessing.
    Last 32 Tudor I had that was fully dressed used 250# springs and mount angle was close to 20*. Current Tudor project is also going to use 250# springs with units mounted at 20*. Also, I have found the HT springs (high travel) give a better ride, so going with them again as well. It will likely run in highboy form more than skirted, but this is her with her dress on.
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  8. DDDenny
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    Doh!
    That photo was taken a looong time ago.
     
  9. QA-1 #225 springs on my '28 sedan on '32 rails. They're tilted about 20*.
    But it also has a 675-pound early Hemi in front and I haven't driven it yet to see how it rides.
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  10. 19Eddy30
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    All my mouthing angle was 25 deg ,
    Full fenders steel ,
    Non chopped cars
    Weights 2,700-2,800 pds
    32 gas tanks 14,gal
    Weight percentage
    Front 54
    Rear 56
    30 sedan , started with a double adjustable QA1 with 250 spring
    With 255/15 tires
    Changed to 175 on both 30& 32 sedans
    Both with triangular 4 link.
    32 5w has 150 & a true competition drag 4 link , shocks mounts Vertical. With drag Radials 315s
    All have Front 4 bar with QA1 D adjustment,
     
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  11. krylon32
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    I think the type of coil spring and how it's wound makes a difference. I checked my new deuce highboy sedan and it has 250 lb coils on Aldan adjustable shocks at about a 25 degree angle and so far rides good. I do have some very good bump stops installed which help cushion the ride also.
     
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  12. 26hotrod
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    <<<Pete&Jakes helped me with shocks on mycoupe. I used their brand and the car handles great with a good ride............
     
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  13. Harold's Speed
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    Wow! Thanks for all the input. My shocks are at 20* so I am going to start with 250 lb springs. Sounds like they will work well. I appreciate all of your help
     
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  14. krylon32
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    All my 32 chassis are c notched and I always use a Yellow Bell Tech 1.5 inch snubber in each c notch to keep the rear end from bottoming out against the frame.
     
  15. DDDenny
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    from oregon

    I like these from Energy Suspension.
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  16. Alden recommended 225# coilovers for my full fender '31 Vicky.
    It was a good highway cruiser.
     
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  17. @krylon32 , do you have a number or info?
    Yellow Bell Tech 1.5 inch snubber.

    How do you mount them after frame has been boxed?

    Thanks.
     
  18. hemihotrod66
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    250lbs on my 34 2dr mounted straight up and down...
     
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  19. krylon32
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    1. Central Nebraska H.A.M.B.

    PPrather: Jeg's part number 146-4922 1.26 inch tall and 146-4923 2.01 inch tall. 3/8th coarse thread stud. On boxed frames I drill a 5/16th hole in the frame and tap 3/8th coarse. Once it's screwed in I've no problems because all the pressure is a push. On new frames I put a threaded bung in the C notch. I like them better than the black rubber snubber's because they are a softer foam like material and are less harsh on contact. They are a yellow color so I use brake cleaner on them and paint them black with some flexible bumper paint which holds up well.
     
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