Technical Console Shifter or ?????? for 64 Chevy.....Anyone up on the differences

I am selling a Saginaw 4spd, that came out of a 1964 Chevy Impala
It is the one with ****** and shifter in photo
I have a guy looking at it, and wants to know if it is for a "CONSOLE"
He bought one already, that he was told WAS for a Console and it doesn't seem to fit
It is the one picutured sticking out of the floor
Can anyone tell me, by just these two photos, what is going on or ??????
Any and All help will be much appreciated
You can answer me directly if you like HELLERLJ@comcast.net

 

The one on the left has the original console shifter but the trans should be a Borg Warner not a Saginaw. The other one could be a 65 shifter.

 

I am not sure what car your trans and shifter came out of, but it was not a 64 Chevrolet. According to Chevrolet records, the first Muncie transmissions were shipped from the plant on 2/6/63 for installation in cars in the May/ June ***embly time frame. All 64's with 4 speeds (full size. Corvette, and Chevelle) came with Muncies. The first 4 speed Saginaws, other than Corvairs did not appear until the '66 model year.

 

One on the right looks like it was made for a bench seat. Had one like on the Muncie in my '55 at one time.

 

Pretty sure GM only made one style of these shifters. In other words...the shifter body is the same as it bolts directly to the transmission...the only variable is the shifter handle which unbolts. Shorter ones like the one in the first picture shown are console type...they also made taller bench seat ones with a more pronounced bend in them..like the second picture. I believe theyd all work in a console...some just wont look right. The 4 speed consoles back then had the hole for the shifter offset to the left....makes for a pretty simple shifter...and a more complicated looking console. Ive never seen one of those shifters on a Saginaw either...but since Saginaw shifters bolt on the same as T10s and Muncies....somebody probably modified a non reverse rod to reach the reverse shifter lever area on a Saginaw...

 

According to these two snagged off the net photos that straight shift handle should be the right one but someone would have to come say if there is a distance from the front of the trans difference in shifter locations between the different transmissions.

 

I believe the overall length of the Saginaw, T10 and Muncie trans are the same...and the shifters bolt in the same place. Only difference would be rod length for the Saginaw and levers....pre 1969 Muncie and T10 are the same for the lever thay bolts to side of the trans which does the actual internal shifting..

 

Thanks for your input

 

THANKS for your input

 

Thanks for your input....

 

Thanks for your input

 

Thanks VERY MUCH for your detailed answer....very helpful

 

THANKS for your input.....

 

Be safe and tell him you do not know the application. It is a ****shoot as to whether it is correct or not. Present the info you have just been given and let him decide whether to buy or not.

 

I had a 1965 Chevelle SS with a console that had the straight shifter with the "T" for reverse lock out & chrome shift ball..................

 

VERY GOOD ADVICE.....I sort of did that exact thing, after all the folks chimed in here....THANKS

 

This is a factory '64 W/console shifter. Notice the handle is offset to the right.

 

I guess it can't hurt having more photos that the OP can't use.
This is pretty much as you described Black Panther, this is the 66-67 Nova shifter for the Muncie 4 speed with console, about the hardest to find out of all the GM shifters.
Not only is it offset and requires a console with quite an extension towards the drivers leg but also requires the tailhousing with the farthest forward mounting holes.
Note the reverse rod, the shortest of all GM rods.
Also note the shift boot/trim ring, the 65-67 Nova and 64 Impala used the same ones.