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Technical Cooling system pressure

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by junkyardjeff, Mar 4, 2021.

  1. junkyardjeff
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    Is it just newer engines that require it,my 37 Chevy has a non pressure system and a 57 235 and it can sit and idle all day long with a four blade fan and not go over 180. I done some changes to my 55 Ford that has a 351 W that had a 7 pound cap and a factory 5 blade a/c fan that the temp would occasionally creep at idle sitting in traffic bur the changes I done required going back to a four blade fan due to lack of room and it instantly started gettng hotter at idle so I put a 13 pound cap on and I think I solved that problem. I had numerous 60s and older vehicles that the pressure in the cooling system did not seemed to matter and never got hotter idling.
     
  2. bigdog
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    Higher pressure cap raises the boiling point of the coolant so the motor can run hotter without boiling and blowing the coolant out. Higher pressure/boiling point will help stop steam pockets from forming at hot spots in the motor, usually by the exhaust valves, which could help the motor run a little cooler on the gauge.
     
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  3. jaracer
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    A pressure cap doesn't change the temperature. It changes the temperature at which the coolant boils.

    Also, if you are determining temperature by the gauge in a 55 Ford, they aren't very accurate. I always determined if an engine was getting too hot by looking to see if it was venting any coolant. My 57 T-Bird will get pretty high up on the gauge in slow traffic and hot weather. However, it never loses any coolant, so I quit worrying about it.
     
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    If it's an original radiator, and came with a 7 lb cap, you're asking for trouble with a 13 lb cap. The radiator tanks are not designed to withstand that much pressure, and could get bulged and leak.

    Some aftermarket radiators have different tank design, and can take the pressure.
     
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  5. junkyardjeff
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    It has a new aluminum radiator and a 13 pound cap is what it was supposed to have in 55.
     
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    Might be time for a fan shroud too since the fan sits lower then it did originally.
     
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  7. Beanscoot
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    Rockauto lists six different ones, all are 7psi.
     
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  8. junkyardjeff
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    Local parts store said 13 unless he thought I said 1965,going to try it and see how it does but the gauge quit creeping up for now with more pressure.
     
  9. Beanscoot
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    Local parts store also told me my little '90s car used gear oil in the transmission, when it actually takes ATF.
     
  10. junkyardjeff
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    It has a 80s engine that most likely had a higher pressure so I do not think it will hurt it,when it goes back to a Y block I will put the 7# cap back on.
     
  11. SPEC
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    You'r problem is air movement , you need good fan blade and a shroud.
     
  12. junkyardjeff
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    I really do not like the fan I got but not much else will fit without relocating the alternator but do not want to go through that since a Y block will be going in soon and that will fix the fan problems.
     
  13. Petejoe
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    A pressurized system also prevents some fluid loss vs a unpressurized system.
    A unpressurized system can lose fluid at high speed Rpms.
     

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