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Hot Rods Correct Way to Separate 9-in Third Member...?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Trethewey, Sep 28, 2021.

  1. Trethewey
    Joined: Jan 2, 2017
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    ...from the housing?

    I was planning on reusing this cast-iron third member, and scrapping the steel '82 pickup truck housing. I'd really like to avoid scratching up the cast-iron sealing surface (my norm) with a cold chisel or screwdriver. The housing I could care less about.

    The factory glued the third member to the housing with something real good; it wouldn't dare leak. Are there any pry points or other tricks I should know about, or is it just be real careful?

    And yes, I did remove all the nuts and copper washers...:rolleyes:

    Thanks, Eddie
     
  2. egads
    Joined: Aug 23, 2011
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    Stiff putty knife.
     
  3. Pry all the sealing washers off the housing studs tgat hold the 3rd member in. Heat the outside edge of the 3rd member with a map gas torch to soften the sealant. Then use a slide hammer either hooked around the pinion yoke or bolted to the pinion support while standing on the housing. It will be loose in about 4 yanks of the slide hammer.
     
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  4. Budget36
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    I’d not be afraid to use a chisel, any burr can be solved with a flat file.
     
  5. oldiron 440
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    If the 9' has not been a part sence new I believe that there are brass washers under the nuts that hold the carrier. These washers deform and hold the carrier so remove them before trying to separate. A screwdriver and small hammer works for the washers....
     
  6. Stan Back
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    from California

    One time it took me quite a while before a friend told me to pull the axles out a little further. Oh, well.
     
  7. dreracecar
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    A gasket scrapper , thinner than a chisel and thicker then a putty knife
     
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  8. Boneyard51
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    5C703D53-7EC7-4B20-B8AE-2B657E11A9EE.jpeg I have made several very sharpe “ cheisel s” out of thin metal. I once had a volunteer fire dept bring a fire pump to my shop as they could not split it. I took my buck 110 pocket knife and my brass hanmmer and put the knife on the gasket and hit it a few times . Presto…. split pump! To split, it has to be sharpe and thin! A blunt chisel, is not going to split anything!






    Bones
     
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  9. Dennis D
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    Try putting your floor jack on the pinion flange and jacking it up and then letting the pressure off. Block of wood on top and hit it with a hammer downward. Rinse and repeat.

    Got to thinking about this. Is the rear end still in the car. If not, my method obviously won't work.
     
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  10. squirrel
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    Copper washers under the nuts is the first thing to carefully inspect for. If there are none, then a thin putty knife that has a metal end on the handle for beating on with a hammer, is my tool of choice to get them separated.

    And lots of patience
     
  11. Don't do it this way, they forgot and left the washers on.


     
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  12. Hnstray
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    To all you guys offering advice about the little sealing washers…..THIS statement above is in the OP’s original unedited post……;)
     
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  13. I work a putty knife in on 2 opposite sides, then another putty knife right under the inserted one, then take a screwdriver and drive it in-between the two, separates without damage to surface.
     
  14. J. A. Miller
    Joined: Dec 30, 2010
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    These work well and are good for doing a lot of things on old cars.
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  15. MeanGene427
    Joined: Dec 15, 2010
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    from Napa

    I have an old wood chisel with a low taper that has a sturdy steel frame to the end, so you can whack it with a hammer- has held up since the mid-70's
     
  16. Kevin Ardinger
    Joined: Aug 31, 2019
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    A big dead blow plastic sledge. Hit the pinion carrier housing side to side until it breaks loose.
     
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  17. Trethewey
    Joined: Jan 2, 2017
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    Support Group Heard From!...And How! Thanx, Guys!
    I used all Twelve (or more) steps to properly deal with Mr. 9-Inch Rear Axle Assembly:
    First, I made sure I gouged out all his yellow-metal washers (ummm, somebody may have not gotten all of them out on the first go-round.):oops:
    Then I hanged Mr. Assembly offa my engine hoist hook via his u-bolts, his housing dangling.
    Blue-wrenched his periphery at the flange whilst was hanging, and:
    Whacked the seam using a wood chisel:eek: while my youngest son (a 250-pounder) jumped up'n'down on the housing.

    And then I menaced Mr. Assembly with my 12" hunting knife...and Mr. Assembly gave up! Components now! Ha! Take THAT!:p
    Sheesh...put like that it sounds kinda painful...

    Marquis de Eddie
     
    Last edited: Sep 29, 2021
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