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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by pompadour, Feb 24, 2010.

  1. pompadour
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    I am looking into cowl steering and I have seen that the cars built by the Rolling bones use those Schroeder steering boxes $$$. Can I use a small Crosley steering box instead on my Model A coupe to drive on the street or is it not strong enough? Any info or sugestions wanted.. Thanks Matt
     
  2. metal man
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    Not familiar with the Crosley box , but Duster boxes work very well . I know there are good pics on here somewhere of a Duster install if you do a search . They actually drive much nicer than Schroeder equipped cars .
     
  3. JohnEvans
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    The Crosley box was popular on early dragsters 'cause it was small/light. Not really good for what you propose
     
  4. Hit the search up. There are toms of good threads here. I followed Clark and used a 30s GM PU box.
     
  5. pompadour
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    Search? There isn't anything about them
    on here... Are you suggesting I search cowl steering ? I know how that works I'm asking about this particular box
     
  6. Well, just trying to help. You didn't say anything of that nature in your post. You could use the Crosley box but as stated they are pretty small. ie: light weight. The Dodge box is really nice, dug up a ton of them when I was looking for something.
     
  7. inkmunky
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    Any more info on your project? Motor youre planning on running? Box from which crosley?

    Like JohnEvans and Tman said crosley boxes are light weights most crosleys weighed about 1k from the factory. If you're gonna be running a heavy v8 i'd avoid a box that light i don't think it will be up to handle it.
     
  8. Chuck Vranas has an article in the new April 2010 issue of Street Rodder covering a Rolling Bones job with cowl steering.
    Lots of pictures and well explained.
    Some fabricating skills required.
     
  9. pompadour
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    Thanks Tman.... inkmunky I am running a small block Chevy with a 4 speed. As for which Crosley I don't know...All I know is its from a Crosley. I will try to get more info but it looks like it wont work from what I see. Thanks Matt
     
  10. pompadour
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    Yes I just took a 20 min ride to many stores looking for april 2010 and I finally found it... I will be readng it tonight.
     
  11. inkmunky
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    I would just worry about the durability of such a small box. On a banger powered modified that weighs in similar to a stock crosley it would do but on a larger street driven rod i'd worry about losing steering. Just my 2 cents.
     
  12. chopt top kid
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  13. Didn't look at Chris' link but I found those boxes in steel and Aluminum in years ranging from 62ish? up into the 70s (got a vintage Mopar yard here)
     
  14. pompadour
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    Yes I have been looking at everyone cowl steering setups... Yes I sold the frame the other day... Thanks... Leadsledmerc also has a nice cowl steering setup in is old c-dan
     
  15. saucerhead
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    I used a mid 70's BMW 2002 steering box in the two cars on the cover of April '10 Street Rodder. We have been happy with them .
     
  16. I have a BMW model 2002 gear with pitman arm that I plan on selling, I found a vintage Norden cowl steering box I will be using so I dont need it.
     
  17. THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER
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    Another alternative is to use an early 50's Ford pickup truck, lengthening the pitman shaft as needed. It has a more favorable slower steering ratio than Ross or Shroeder for the street and is certainly stout enough.
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  18. KrisKustomPaint
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    the 69-78 ford truck manual steering box works great, easy to reverse, and doesn't need an extension on the sector shaft.
     

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