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Customs CPP crossmember transmission mount

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by FAKKY, Dec 23, 2018.

  1. FAKKY
    Joined: Sep 9, 2016
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    What do you guys think.

    anyone know how thick a transmission crossmember rubber mount needs to really be .....
    I bought GM universal MT5000 mount like this

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/MT-5000-GM-...-/201522422559

    But finding the CPP crossmember is only like 1/4 inch under the mount of the tailshaft. So thinking the best way to adapt is with a real thin square rubber plate sitting over the X-member steel support. But not sure if thats ok ?

    basically the 2 configurations without getting way more creative

    Option 1 - mounts hung inside of frame as I think intended/designed for clearance of exhaust underneath. Almost 0 clearance to mount a trans mount. Could only think to get ike a 1/4" real thick rubber matt cut to square to match the mount pad on the xmember.

    [​IMG]

    option 2 - hung off below the rails. Gives too much vertical but maybe could be bridged with a spacer on bolt. probably means exhuast may have to go over TOP of xmember.

    [​IMG]
     
  2. squirrel
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    raise the engine mounts an inch or two....???? It looks like it's all sitting rather low.
     
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  3. FAKKY
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    Transmission is about as high as it can go without doing tunnel work.
    [​IMG]

    Engine oil pan is higher than the front xmember.
     
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  4. FAKKY
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    Oil pan above front xmmeber etc
    [​IMG]

    Bottom is now above bottom of xmember.
     
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  5. FAKKY
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    starting to think your right though.

    I raised the transmisison 2 " .... and it only slightly throws my ~3.5 degrees out ..... so will raise the front and determine. Think I can just bend the existing trans tunnel cover enough that it will be ok once I seal over the top of it with sounds matts etc. Worst case seal from underside a little with rubber/flexible sealant also.
     
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  6. Happydaze
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    The trans mount doesn't have to or need to sit atop the crossmember, but can sit on a gusseted plate mounted anywhere on the front of the tube, with a cross section something like this (gusset omitted) _o, or -o. Would mean moving the crossmember rearward a little but that shouldn't be an issue. Solid or near solid mounting comes with it's own problems and is probably best avoided, but opinions will vary.

    Chris
     
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  7. The cover should be easy to reshape.
     
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  8. F&J
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    This is the best way with that new hoop hanging so low, but I would still raise that trans/engine like you now plan, because the trans pan looks too low as far as impacts.
    .
     
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  9. DDDenny
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    This^^^^^^^
    And don't waste your money on those cheap Korean made rubber transmission mounts, spend a little more for a urethane mount from Energy Suspension, they actually make them in two thicknesses.
    If you are concerned about exhaust clearance you can modify the crossmember easy enough. I built this one one for my Nova as it sits fairly low.

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  10. FAKKY
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    thanks guys.

    thinking going to raise engine just a bit ..... plus cut and reweled the supporting tube lower to give me the clearance I need. Pic attached.
    [​IMG]

    Anything bad with raising the engine higher outside of

    1) Hood clearance
    2) Trans tunnel clearance ?
     
  11. I don't know what your working on and maybe it's just camera angle but in this photo
    [​IMG] Your A Frames look to not have vehicle weight on them and sighting across the Trans oil pan bottom to the right front wheel I'd be a little concerned about Scrub Line. You might want to look into that.
     
  12. Johnny Gee
    Joined: Dec 3, 2009
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    Cut the trans mounting pad off the cross member and turn it over and reweld.
     
  13. FAKKY
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    Thanks -- yes the trans is partially supported here just so I could get the XMEMBER in to get a feel for what it would look like - so full weight not there. I did raise the engine and trans approx 1-2" more ...... so scrub line lokos great now - thanks for tip.

    This ^^ was my option two - dropping the mounting pad 1.5" .
    Decided to cut the TAB off and relocate ....... seems to be fine on mockup ...... so far.

    Dealing with birdsnests all of a sudden ..... no idea why

    [​IMG]
     
  14. Johnny Gee
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    I flipped mine on my 56 (avatar) for an other reason. This is how I know it works and you can go even lower (higher) if you get creative.
     
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  15. Mr48chev
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    It shouldn't be hard to figure out but if I could help it I wouldn't want either engine or trans pan hanging lower than the bottom of the front crossmember. Speed bumps love to catch them if they are too low.
     
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  16. That's real good advice right there.
     

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