cutting your own white walls in tires

I have read all the info when it came up over a year ago about cutting your own wide white walls out of the sidewall on tires. My question, or idea, is why not do it with the tire and wheel on the car with the car running and the rear end on jackstands. If you put the car in gear you have your own sort of pottery wheel to get a good clean inside and outside line on. I was wondering what you guys would use to remove the raised letters and black sidewall with if this method was to be used. If there is a reason why this is a stupid idea feel free to voice that as well, but I will probably try it anyway. Thanks guys

 

What's wrong with bias ply white walls?

 

Krylon-$2.99 a can @ Wal-mart.

 

take wheel off, set on ground

Grind with 7"grinder and red 50 grit disk. Make skinny whitewall wide.

Dont be lame and grind thru to the black, that ****s.

Give it a quick once-over with your air DA sander with some 80 or 120 grit.

Hose off all the rubber dust, re-install onto vehicle, open can of PBR, drink.

 

You mean a cold Lonestar?

 

these are free

 

And look the same.

 

I've heard of it being done, but is it safe to take material off the side wall, and then run them 80 mpd down the freeway?

They do look good when done right, but whats the risk of it comin apart on ya?

 

So your saying that you want to turn your car into a lathe of sorts. Then with the car on jack stands try and press some sort of tool against the spinning tire and try to control said tool for both sise-to-side motion as well as depth control.
All this while trying to keep from getting caught up it the spinning tire or without eating a sharp object due to kick back.

Do I have the plan correct?

If so where can I buy tickets?

 

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If you have a locking diff, then t will work.
If you have an open diff then .......NO, it will not work.
Don't ask me how I found out.

Just take the tire/wheel off of the axle and grind/sand em wide.
I would like to make a machine out of electric motors to grind my whites.

I have seen guys use an axle chucked up in a lathe to grind their WW's.

This machine looks do-able.


You will only remove about a 1/64" - 1/32" of material.
Have you ever seen the old bias plys with skinny whites dug into them about 1/8" from the "factory"?

 

say what you want,i paid $49 for a set of portawalls from lucas tire and that's all i'll ever run
creepy

 

I wasn't there, but that is exactly how they were done on my bud's '41. Besides, if the tires are free you don't have much to lose.

 

I polished a set of aluminum rims by jacking up the rear of the car, starting the car, and putting the gear shift (manual) into second gear. Gotta have some big balls to go through with it now, I had beginners luck then.

I highly doubt that you will be able to control depth and width very well with the tire spinning. Believe me, I've thought of doing this to get some wide white walls too, but I also know that a spinning tire is not exactly flat or round. I think taking the wheel off the car will give you more control.

But what the hell....go for it and let us know how it goes. Sell tickets and be your own carnival attraction!

 

Pardon me, an ice-cold Shiner Bock.

 

There was a guy at the viva carshow a few years ago that had his own rig to shave the white walls with the wheels still on the car. I think it turned the wheel with an electric motor, and the shaved it with a different motor on a small swing arm.

 

Dude your risking your life for tires? Just nut up and buy some biasply's find some at a swap or whatever. Even old tires 10 plus years are no good and will crack. Grinding em down looks cobb and Im sure it exposes the core of the sidewall more than intended. My life is worth to me than money! LTR Dave

 

Some people unintentionally make their own wide whitewalls... by an obscure process called "paralell parking." That extra bit getting ground off was designed to be ground off a lot more...

 

Huh???

In my experience, (if done correctly) you will never remove more than .040" of rubber. Ever see the old bias plys with ~.125" removed to reveal the white rubber underneath? This was from the factory!

John

 

Like this one:

 

And on that seventh day God made Coker.

 

At the retread place my brother worked at thru high school they reground the narrow white wall on a machine resembling a tire balancer...stationary hooked /flat blade on a arm ..TIRE UNINFLATED

The rim/ tire run out(the difference in surface irregularities )can be severe!

The machine set up mentioned in apost above sounds like a on car wheel/tire spinner balancer (SPEED CAN BE CONTROLLED)set up with an arm holding a die grinder.

Setting a running car on jackstands is something for Americas Funniest Home Videos

BLACKWALLS ARE FINE UNTIL YOU CAN FIND THE RIGHT TIRES
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU BUT I FIND AT LEAST1-2 SETS OF WW AT EVERY SWAP ON ODD RIMS ...USED BIAS WW ARE WORTH ABOUT $20-25 WITH A RIM.. 100 A SET... BUY PAIRS OR ODD SINGLES - OLD SPARES THAT HAVE ZERO MILES..
RUNNING YOUR CAR THROUGH THE BACK OF THE GARAGE OVER THE DOG/KID OR YOU IS GONNA BE MORE EXPENSIVE
PLEASE VIDEO THE RESULT AND POST THE DOCTOR BILL ON YOUR FREE TIRES....

 

looks more like a mudwall?? that off a tractor or sumthin??
Ken

 

I've been told I'm an idiot before so its probably true-not that anyone's really called me an idiot on this one but- Ive seen it done before- it doesnt look good for one and one instance I can remember the tire eventually bubbled in the cut section-probably a poorly designed tire to begin with but why take chances is all I'm saying. Blow outs', flat tires and just breaking down ****s as we all know whatever you do be careful and watch them for problems LTR Dave

 

Studhud...the surface of the sidewall on a radial is totally asthetic. The white and black layers are not structural at all. Only looks bad when it's really poorly done. You've prob'ly seen a bunch and never knew it, just because they were done well.

I like the grinder on the swing arm deal...with the wheel mounted on a hub. Could hook a spring onto the swing arm to pull toward the tire (obviously wouldn't need a lot of tension). Then just rotate the wheel by hand.

Or you could do it the easy way. Check out bigger used car dealerships for a guy that comes to the lot and cuts with his nifty on car machine. I found a guy at one of my clients dealerships...all I gotta do is take him the car and a 6 pack, and give him 20 minutes.

Olson

 

A lot of older tire shops have the machine that cuts the sidewalls of the tires still. Check old used car dealerships also that have their own shop. They used to do it all the time on used cars to get the whitewalls to match up.

I want to buy on of those old machines. Some of them even do it on the car.

 

in my opinion,it kinda seems stupid to grind/sand/shave your tires to whitewalls cuz the white doesnt go all the way back to the rim and you have to spray it with krylon fushion or something similar to make it white and if you're going to do that,you might as well just do the whole tire.just my 2 cents
creepy

 

It can be done,........... Look up an OLD used car lot or OLD tire shop in your town. They all used to do it and there were machines made specifically for that. Many still have some of that old equipment stashed. But some may have forgotten how to use it.

I have heard of some guys making thier own machine from and old tire machine, an angle grinder and a fine stone.

I go search for an OLD machine..... they're out there and it would be cool to have.

 

I was at the store yesterday flipping through magazines and saw an article on this subject. It was either Street Rodder or Rodders Digest I think. They used 50 or 60 grit to start then finished up with a finer grit (I forgot which). They had pictures too.
Paul

 

It is in the current Ol' Skool Rodz (July 2006, Issue #16) on page 17. The article has six pictures that illustrate the process pretty well. The article suggests using a 36 grit Roloc disc to do the major grinding and finishing up with a 120 grit Roloc disc. Scrub the tire with Ajax/Comet and a green Scotch Brite pad when all grinding is done. They also suggest that patience and a light touch work best. Grind with the line of the whitewall, not across it to avoid gouges.

 

Ok, look here, it shows you all you need:



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There is ONE picture showing real cokers, can you figure out which one? I have another vehicle I've done it to with good results, but for some reason i dont take pix of it...