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Definitive Dakota frame swap list

Discussion in 'Off Topic Hot Rods & Customs' started by Flipper, Nov 5, 2008.

  1. Abomination
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    Found this info here: http://dodgeforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=93061


    I had a club cab and now have a quad cab, the dealer told me (and of course the info maybe incorrect) they have the same frame but the club cab's cab is 8 inches shorter and the bed is 8 inches longer than the cab and bed of the quad cab.....they have the same frame and wheel base is the same 131.1 inches....you might need to mod some mounting hardware but it seems this swap would be possible
     
  2. Abomination
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  3. Abomination
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  4. moparron426
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  5. Larry T
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    Jason,
    I've finished the Panhead, worked a little on both of my Anglias and the 55 I have.
    I've got most of the patch panels I need to fix the 56 cab, filled 70 holes in the firewall and started installing the patch panels, but I've decided the only way to kill the rust is to dip the cab and I haven't been able to justify the $$$$$$$$$ for that right now. So the cab is just sitting and patiently waiting until I get started on it again.

    If someone will buy the 55, I promise I'll make some progress on the 56 bigwindow! LOL
    Larry T
     
  6. Abomination
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    Before you dip, give this a shot!
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=263091

    ~Jason

     
  7. Abomination
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    Posted by TagMan here:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=172723

    I'm posting it up for others. It's beautiful!

    Enjoy!

    ~Jason


    TECH: Lifting a Pick-up cab off the frame

    I finished the mock-up on my '46 Chevy 1/2T and started tearing it apart. I got down to lifting the cab off, but nobody was around, so I used what I had available. Maybe this has been done before and I just "re-invented the wheel", but maybe it'll help somebody ......

    First off I found a 2"x6" about 6' long, measured it, marked the mid-point and drilled a 3/8" hole about 1-1/2" from the edge.

    I then made up a bracket out of 3/16" steel s****s I had laying around and welded it together.

    I next took a 12" s**** of square tubing, that just fit inside the boom on my cherry picker, and welded the bracket to one end of it. I inserted the tubing into the boom, marked & drilled a 3/8" hole for a bolt to secure it. The bracket had to be tall enough to allow the beam to pivot and stay level as the boom was raised.

    I screwed on a couple of small angle iron s****s on opposite edges of the 2"x6", to prevent and slipping, and covered them with a piece of bicycle tubing and taped 'em with electrical tape.

    I then moved the balance beam into position and, after a couple of tried to balance the cab, lifted the cab and pulled it off the ch***is. I previously had made up a dolly for the cab, making sure the legs of the cherry picker would fit under it, so I laid the cab on the frame and bolted it in. Worked like a charm and I saved calling in some favors for something important !!

    Here's a few pics that'll prolly explain it way better than I tried to with words - hope it helps...............................

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    ...I was also a little concerned about stability, but was amazed at how well it stayed balanced, even when rolling it around, hanging from the cherry picker - never wavered a bit.
     
  8. Abomination
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    This should come in real handy:
    http://www.dodge.com/bodybuilder/

    "The Body Builder's Guide contains truck safety, emissions and electrical data, as well as dimensional graphics to aid corporate and aftermarket upfitters in determining model selection for individual and commercial modifications."

    The Body Builder's Guide looks like it's only out for '05/'06/'07 vehicles, but has loads of frame drawings and dimensions. It's for aftermarket companies that want to modify Dodge vehicles into other stuff, like 4x4 ambulances and stuff.

    ~Jason
     
  9. sonicweb
    Joined: Jul 9, 2006
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    Here's my 47 Studebaker M5 on an 87 Dakota Ch***is. Complete ch***is and running gear. Cab is on frame, cab floor not modified. Frame at factory ride height, no lowering blocks or any changes to the frame. Hockey pucks for body mounts. My 1st body swap. Currently not finished. Plan to complete it this summer.
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    Complete build located on another page. PM me for the link.
     
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  10. Abomination
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    Wow! That actually fits on there pretty good! :D

    I actually found a post you did at the other forum about this, and was digging on the pictures! Folks, you really should PM him for the address - he did a great job!

    ~Jason

     
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  11. Abomination
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  12. Frankie47
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    from omaha ne.

    The 93 and older dakota matches up to 46-48
    Chryslers, DeSotos, and Dodge p***enger cars. This is the front frame from just under the firewall forward.
    The Plymouths are too narrow. Stock flathead 100 HP, V-6 transplant 190 HP with no mods to engine.
    Everything you need to know on the P-15 D-24 forum.
     
  13. ol gasser
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    from here

  14. Abomination
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    Here's a link, FYI:
    http://www430.pair.com/p15d24/mopar_forum/index.php

    ~Jason

     
  15. 65fordguy
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    do you think a 65 f100 would sit on one of these nicely?
    Ive contemplated industrial ch***is' kit. but its costy for my book...
    I can get a whole dakota frame for a couple hundred bucks....
    perhaps just do a front clip???

    Im told dakotas are easy to get to the height you want. much like an s10.

    probably wont do it but ive been dreaming of it for a while... for some dumb reason... would having this frame make it easy to drop in a hemi motor and ******?
     
  16. Flipper
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    from Kentucky

    Any progress to show on your build?
     
  17. zman
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    I guess the time involved in making body mounts and bed mounts and radiator mounts, etc. is not worth it. :rolleyes: I think Steve's kit is well worth the money. It's right.
     
  18. bigtumtum
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    It dont have to be expansive when you find 10people who wants todo exacly the same you give the drawings of the mounts to a small metallshop and they will do it for a good solid price... :)
     
  19. Abomination
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    These guys?
    http://industrialch***isinc.com/

    ~Jason

     
  20. bigtumtum
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    Wow looks nice but still so expansive...

    hook me up with some basic drawings and i will see if i can get a autocad (solidedge) drawing and look how much it would cost..

    maybe with some adjustments so you can make it more universal.... :D
     
  21. Larry T
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    Or you could PM Elpolako here on the HAMB and ask him for his blueprints. He owns Industrial Ch***is.
    Larry T
     
  22. bigtumtum
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    with help from:
    Abomination
    Jeff51
    and some others

    we have made for s10 to chevrolet 3100 swap already this:

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  23. Solidaxel
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    Are there 2" lowered spindles available for the early Dakotas?
     
  24. zman
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    Well I doubt you're gonna find 10 people that are doing the IH to Dakota thing. Especially all the same body.

    Yeah, it confounds me that a cad guy can't do drawings... :eek::rolleyes:

    Yeah right. He put a lot of hard work and engineering into those, so you want him to give you the keys to his livelyhood? Not reasonable at all... Kinda silly really and I'd think that's pretty ballsy to even suggest. I hope you just forgot the big smiley...

    Yes.
     
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  25. bigtumtum
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    Yeah, it confounds me that a cad guy can't do drawings... :eek::rolleyes:


    What is your problem dude!! :confused:
     
  26. zman
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    Your blatant want to just copy other peoples products... that's the most of it... Like this stuff from the S10 thread. Multiple people stepped up to help you get a product but you continue to want to just blatantly copy someone's product. Patented or not. If you could at least take a little initiative and make some measurements most of the stuff is easy enough to figure out. But taking someone's product, making drawings and putting them for free on the internet is just plain wrong. Is that black and white enough for you?

     
  27. Larry T
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    OK, my apoligies. If you're gonna reverse engineer a Dakota frame and do the design and development work, then I think it's a great idea.
    If you were going to copy someone elses work, it would have been a different situation.

    Z-Man,
    Sorry you can't read satire in a post without a smiley.
    Larry T
     
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  28. zman
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    Thanks Larry, I thought that's what you where you were going... I'm all for doing it yourself. For helping, hell I'd give a copy of the Nailhead to S10 mount drawings (hopefully I could find them) that I made, but if I had made them a product and someone just went to measuring a set and putting them out there I would feel wronged. It's easy enough to set a motor in, take some measurements and come up with something similar without resorting to other means...
     
  29. bigtumtum
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    its black and white for me that every second comment you give on the hamb is only *****ing i dont need to make any drawing at all

    just trying to help out.. but you know what Go **** yourself!

    just for once read back your own comments i believe 80% what you write is negativ how is that helping your felow Hambers...

    if i hurt some guy with anything i did then i would apologize

    but you zman are just a crumpy person!!! for once say sompthing positiv...
     
  30. zman
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    I've done plenty positive here. But then I guess the only times I responded to you was to first offer to ship the mounts to you since your gripe was that no one would. Then you decided you'd rather copy someone else's product. I'm sorry if I have a problem with copying someone else hard work. I look at it as theft. So if your comment to me when you get called out for it is "**** Yourself", well that just show what kind of person you are. But then I guess you have no perception of right and wrong....
     

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