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Desoto hemi water pump??

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by jtille, Aug 31, 2010.

  1. jtille
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    I would like to know about the sbc water pump conversion pros@cons I would like to see come pics of some hemis that have been converted over to the sbc water pump Thanks
     
  2. 34hemipu
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    I ran Hotheads deal . Worked great , nice casting . Ran aluminum pump so saved some weight over the ol iron . sorry no pics .
     
  3. jtille
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    Thanks I have been looking at them but dont know anyone who is running one
     
  4. George
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    pros eaisily replaced. Cons just depends on if you like the look or not.
     
  5. More pros than cons imo - less weight, core sourcing/rebuild not reqd, easily available etc.

    My 330 hemi's timing cover and water pump weigh a ****load otherwsie Id run the original.

    Imo the HH/SBC parts look OK, esp when painted to blend in - kinda more compact in an open hot rod engine bay for me. If you're shooting for a totally original look and weight dont matter, go for it. the rebuilt original pump will work fine.

    Where's DESOTO? I know what he'd recommend hehe !

    Rat
     
  6. drfreeze
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    I have to agree with rat bastad if you have the room stock would be cool but in my case stock length frame and the mcculloch lost alot of room and the weight savings is huge ...... ill try to post a pick when i finish my coffee
     
  7. DE SOTO
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    Running a SBC Water Pump Conversion on a Hemi is just Pure sacralidge !

    I hear all the weight savings & its more compact & easier to get .... Blah Blah Blah !!

    Its a Hemi, If ya want Chevy stuff buy a crate Motor !

    Put the ORIGINAL parts back on it & Burn your Hot Heads Cataloge !!!

    :D:D:D:D
     
  8. 51 Hemi J
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    :D:D I agree, those SBC pumps look terrible on a hemi. I would rather see an electric inline pump than the SBC pump.
     
  9. 73RR
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    Come on DE SOTO, tell us how you really feel...:D

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  10. mlagusis
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    My brother has the hot heads adapter on his 354 in his 56 new yorker. It's nice to be able to pick up a water pump at any store instead of having to have your pump rebuilt.
     
  11. 73RR
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    A properly rebuilt pump will last 100K miles, I'm not sure that the newest chinese sbc pumps will do that so maybe it is good that they are available at 7-11.

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  12. jtille
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    How about running a generator with the sbc water pump?
     
  13. jtille
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  14. filthy frank
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    i dont know the name of the shop, but they make a pump to run off the belt just off to the side,they make conversions for puting a 350 into a porche.but when you have a blower belt,and a front distributor drive with mech fuel drive, with an extention,you dont have to many options,im thinking of an idea about running a electric bilje pump from a boat.or a electric water pump and modifying it to pull off the bottom rad hose,to the where it would hook up on the front of the block.
     
  15. HemiRambler
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    I'm running both ways - On one it is obviously NOT a 1950's recreation nor ogional - so who cares. On another it is a 1960's era drag car (no hood) so I much prefer the stock pump - I've rebuilt these from swap meet parts before to save money, but there are some cheap ones available for the '92 anyways. I don't see the big deal - run whatever you like - it's YOUR CAR.
    So to answer your question:

    PRO's easy - cheaper to fix - etc
    CON's you'll offend someone

    I don't know about you, but as a Hot Rodder - offending people was never real high on my list of stuff to care about. Life's too short.
     
  16. aircoup
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    right on desoto, just put it out there hahaha
     
  17. jtille
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    Thanks for all the info people
     
  18. spoons
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    I got It all....sbc pump and generator...
    Not too tough.... and I don't care If I offend or not...
     

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  19. Cross Rodder
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    I hate seeing Chevy on the front of what could have been a *****en rod. The pump rebuild is only $50-$60
     

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  20. metal man
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    That looks just fine s****s,hardly noticeable.It's just a water pump.I guess if they're going to ***** about a different water pump on a hemi,they should just leave the original engines in their Fords along with mechanical brakes and 21" wheels and all that other stuff:rolleyes:.
     
  21. MR. FORD
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    I have been running my stock rebuilt one from Kanter for 2 years..no issues. **** putting SBC stuff on your Hemi. Oh, and I drive my car a lot.
     
  22. metal man
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    I love your coupe,beautiful. I have just one question,why is it OK to have a bunch of unoriginal carburetors and an alternator,but not an updated,shorter water pump ? I would much rather see a Chevy pump on there than an alternator.Just a question.
     
  23. MR. FORD
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    To each their own..... I drive my car like crazy, alternator seemed like a better choice 2 and 1/2 years ago. Hasn't let me down yet. The alternator is 1959 mopar, and never came on an SBC. I just think its silly to put other non DeSoto parts on the actual motor when the stock one works just fine.
     
  24. metal man
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    Not trying to pick on you.For what it's worth,I've got both an alternator and a Chevy pump on my Desoto hemi.I went to a LOT of trouble to hide the alternator from view.Not because it's not correct for some certain time period,just because I couldn't stand the look of the alternator hanging out there.The Chevy pump is there for reasons already stated by others on this thread.Like you said, to each their own.
    I really dig your coupe.
     
  25. Pooch
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    I was debating what to do with mine and I saw this one at the twist off.
    I will be going with the chevy pump on my 354.
     

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  26. spoons
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    I never had a core to rebuild and wasn't gonna run around looking for 1.

    I also have electronic Ignition and still use the stock dizzy.
    I love your car..saw it @ the round-up
     
  27. jtille
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    Looks good s****s Iam going to go ahead and get the sbc water pump conversion
     
  28. jbtine
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    I have the Hot Head setup. Pros...availability and weight savings.
    Cons..you have to run electric fuel pump since there is no provision for a mechanical pump. The Hot Heads setup has no oil fill provision either and since I didn't want to butcher a valve cover with an oil fill I installed it in the aftermarket valley cover
     

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  29. tubman
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    I have the setup with an aluminum SBC water pump on the 331 in my vintage dirt car. With an aluminum manifold, I was able to get almost 100 lbs off the front wheels which meant I could finally adjust the "push" out of it.:) I agree with s****s, why are some newer improvements OK (carbs, ignition, cams), but others aren't?:confused: It's a dirt car with an expensive engie, so I use the best K&N air filter as well.You have to look kinda hard to see that it's not a stock pump.
     
  30. Here's some hard to see pictures of mine. I didn't do it for weight savings, "easy to find" water pump, etc, etc. I did it because it saved me 4"+ and allowed me to use a mechanical fan. Saved a ton of weight, too. I was going to use an electric pump anyway, and I put the oil fill on the front of the valve cover. Who cares if it's a Chevy part (not to mention the GMC Detroit Diesel Blower)...it's a Hot Rod. And besides, which looks worse...that or an electric fan...or two...
     

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