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History Did Ford design the OHV before Chevy?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by jdh67, Mar 12, 2011.

  1. CutawayAl
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    I don't rember any particulars, but I have read that Ed Cole was involved with the OHV Cadillac V-8.
     
  2. RichFox
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    I am sure Hemi engines have been around almost as long as engines. All of those big round motors attached to the front of airplanes that I ever worked on were hemis. And blown.
     
  3. Larry T
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    All of the Harley Knucks/Pans/Shovelheads/Sportsters are hemis (with production roller cams). They started production on the Knuckleheads in 1936. I suspect it was an old design by then.
    Larry T
     
  4. Lobucrod
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    This may or may not be totally unrelated to the original post but its my understanding that Arkus Duntov who was instrumental in the developement of the SBC was the developer of the Ardun OHV conversion for the ford motors. Dont know if he was working for Ford at the time.
     
  5. bth73
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    Ask any independent mechanic, and they'll say Ford provides 70% of their business.
    Ford - providing 70% of independent-mechanics work since 1903.
    Thank you Ford.
     
  6. lippy
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    Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. If it wasn't for Fords, our tools would rust. :D
     
  7. Truckedup
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    Exactly,British cycles had them in the 1920's.The Liberty V-12 aircraft engine designed in the USA in 1917 by engineers from Packard and Hall Scott had overhead cams,Hemi heads just like many other early aircraft engines,race and higher end cars.
    Common mass produced car engine need not be fancy,just cheap to produce with adequate power and reliability.For 20 years the two best selling cars in the world were Chevy and Ford,one had an OHV 6 with a bizarro lubrication system and the other a Flathead V-8, obsolete technology by the 1930's.
     
  8. bth73
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    LMAO. I never heard that one. You know what FORD really stands for?
    F&*%^$ Owner's Really Dumb.
     
  9. ken1939
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glg1Fv1NYbo

    Not sure if this will take you to it. There was a guy at Flint who had a bone stock original 1918 Chevy with the V8. You can also search Lukes 1918 Chevy V8

    It was in cars from 1914 to 1918 and then was dropped due to cost.
     
  10. CutawayAl
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    During the time of the model "T" Ford sold more cars than all the world's other auto manufacturers combined. So, it would make sense a lot of mechanics were working on them. That was a long time ago and this is now, but you said, "since 1903.
     
  11. 50Fraud
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    There is a grain of truth in the OP's question. Ford introduced an OHV V8 in their main line passenger cars in 1954; Chevy didn't bring theirs out until '55.

    If this has been said in an earlier post, pardon me. I didn't want to read eight pages on this topic.
     
  12. bulletproof1
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    doesnt really matter who invented it,, chevy perfected it and ford has been playing catch up every since... look how many old fords have chevy motors in them.. for that matter the chevy sb and bb have had the lions share of aftermarket support for years... now the LS motor is staged to be the next chevy power plant to rule the streets/track ..
     
  13. BillWallace
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    This is a rediculouis argument. GM had been building & selling OHV engines for decades prior to Ford. After WW2 all the automobile companies in America Knew that to move forward V8 engines were the future to market cars. Gasoline was realative ly cheap & the government was in no mood to raise gas tax promoting smaller engines. "See the USA in your Chevrolet" was the slogan & then came the interstate high ways & big powerful cars became the norm. An era past.
     
  14. CutawayAl
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    Although it depends on how you define things, it could be said that Cadillac's contributions "perfected" the V-8 engine. While the Chevy SB was a milestone, it has a number of significant shortcomings, it is not perfect.
     
  15. GMC BUBBA
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    We are missing the fact that the 1917 Chevrolet V8 was actually bought prior from Scripts Booth.... Scripts Booth had used the engine a couple years prior.
    Frank Kleptz had a couple of these running in a Terre Haute museum a few years ago....
    Check some google for "Scripts Booth" ...............
    Good thread keep er going....
     
  16. gear jammer
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    I dont know about the story, I hope its not true, I hate to think all you sbc guys are really ford guys.....
    I did the same thing, only I drained the oil on both, both stopped running, only the 289 ford started back up after it cooled, the 283 chevy wouldn't turn
     

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