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Differences between 1932 pickup cab vs. A model vs. 33/34?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by T-Time, Feb 3, 2007.

  1. T-Time
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    What features can I look for to tell if what I'm looking at is a 1932 enclosed pickup cab? There's no dash. It has a visor.
     
  2. Swedester
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    the 32 should have recessed fire wall,33-34 potrudes,34 has extra "rib" on the back.if the firewall is missing,I don´t know if there is any actuall difference 32 vs 33.the actuall cab looks the same.an A cab is totally different. I have a -32 project going,pic´s of it here,it should tell you if it´s a model a or b. www.anderssonracing.com/hr.htm
     
  3. chopndrop
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  4. Model A cabs have visors, the other 3 do not.
     
  5. T-Time
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    Well I thought that I had ruled out 30-31 A due to the embossing on the door being totally different than the photos I'm finding. Looks like those on the 32-34 PUs, with with Charlie Chops 40's answer, I'm confused. Also, all the 32-34 photos that I'm finding have visors, too.:confused:
     
  6. T-Time
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    Picture of the cowl.
     

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  7. not a model A,looks like 33 or 34
     
  8. I don't think it's an A.
    Model A firewlls have a flange (about a third of the way down from the top) where the front of the gas tank meets the lower part of the firewall.
     
  9. "HOTROD"
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    I believe all the pickups of these years have visors.
    I think that the firewall on a Model A pickup is the same as a coupe or sedan
    and after 31 the leading edge of the top of the door is rounded off, Model A is square.
    Dan
     
  10. T-Time
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    I meant to say "a picture of the firewall", not the cowl. The guy that has it says that it is a 33, but I wasn't convinced that he really knew what it was.
     
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    [QUOTE='29MurrayTub]Model A firewlls have a flange (about a third of the way down from the top) where the front of the gas tank meets the lower part of the firewall.[/QUOTE]


    I think that is only on the 28/29 Model A, not so on the 30/31.

    Dan
     
  12. T-Time
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    I see what you mean, when I compare to pics of 30/31 A's. This one definitely has doors with the rounded corners.
     
  13. Swedester
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    well,the pic of the fire wall is 100% 33-34,if it has three ribs on the back of the cab,one really wide,it´s 34,if it´s got two ribs,same as on the doors,it´s a 33.
     
  14. T-Time
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    It has two ribs. Well what about that?! The guy really does know what it is! 1933. Not what I'm wanting though. I want a 32. I hadn't considered a PU,though, until I came across this one. Now I know more about what I'm looking for. Thanks to all for the help.
     
  15. Deuce Roadster
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    1932 firewalls are a separate part ... and are NOT welded to the body ...

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    This is a repro one from a eBay auction ... but you get the idea ... ;)

    33 and 34 pickups have the firewall made to the body ...

    The Model A has a fuel outlet on the cowl ... 32 and 33 -34 's have a cowl vent ... like below ...

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    Model A above ...

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    33 or 34 above ...
     
  16. Swedester
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    as for wanting a 32,not a 33,if you use a 32 firewall,there´s no way to tell if it´s a 32 or 33.the exact same cab.
     
  17. T-Time
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    Thanks for that tip. What about frames? And what about PU frames vs. 32 car frames?
     
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    If you are now looking to get a pickup, don't p*** up the '33 or '34 just because of the firewall.
     
  19. Swedester
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    32 pu frame does not have the stylish pressed reveal on the rails.but I guess what you actually asking is:will the 33-34 cabs fit on a 32 car frame? and that answer is yes,altough,I think the floor bracing is different.
    my 32 cab is from a fullsize truck,so it had straight rails,wich makes the floor bracing not fit the 32 car ch***is.but that´s not a problem by my standards.
     
  20. mecutem
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    33 and 32 cabs are different in several places. The most easily recognized feature is the area just behind the visor. 32 year has a visor with one small stamping going into the roof area. 33 and 34 have a similar visor but also have about an inch wide reveal (uppy) that runs across the roof just behind visor. So if the cab is missing the floor and the firewall just look at the visor. The 33 and 34 cabs can be changed to the removable 32 firewall (I have done this) but the roof would still give away the year. Steve
     
  21. sawbuck
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    model a has 3 door hinge, and the roof is not solid
     
  22. All of the trucks have visor's, it is car body's that stopped having them in 1932.


    CBB
     
  23. Visors...I knew the '32-34 trucks had visors too. Temporary brain fade...well, maybe not so temporary.

    Charlie
     
  24. HotRodFreak
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    1933. Not what I'm wanting though. I want a 32. I hadn't considered a PU,though, until I came across this one. Now I know more about what I'm looking for. Thanks to all for the help.[/quote]
    Early 33's had two back "ribs" so it is easy to make it a 32 by changing firewall and dash (32 dash has removeable gauge tunnel). There are other minor differences but few guys will know.
     
  25. TV
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    Not true!!! The 32 I have has a visor.--TV
     
  26. T-Time
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    I guess what I meant was does the 32 PU frame have the same dimensions and shape as the 32 p***enger car frame? And, are the 33 and 34 PU frames the same as a 32 PU? I am not at all a fan of the reveal on the p***enger car frame, so maybe the 32 PU frame would be the better choice for my tastes, even if I use a p***enger car body.
     
  27. Swedester
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    the 32 frame should be the same in size,just the reveal that´s missing.the 33-34 frames I don´t know.
     
  28. tommy
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    There may be some minor differences that only a picky restorer would care about but 32 car frames and 32 light commercial frames are the same with the same reveal in the side.

    The 33-34 frames are different because 33-34 frames have a 6" longer wheel base.

    From what I've seen at the shows, it seems to me that 1/2 of the hot rodded "32" P/Us have 33 or 34 cabs.:D
     
  29. Swedester
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    I wonder if anyone have pics on that press/reveal just behind the visor that´s supposed to differ 32 vs 33/34.mine´s got a roughly 1" wide convex pressing there,as someone said was 33-34,well,my cab had the removable 32 firewall,how ´bout that?
     
  30. mecutem
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    Swedester asks for a picture so here it is. A shot of the roof of my original light duty 32 pickup cab. I don't have a 33/34 cab to take a picture of though. Knowing how ford used every part maybe they started 33 style roof near the end of the 32 model year. Steve
     

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