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  1. theHIGHLANDER
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    I've searched 6 ways to Sunday and came up empty. Google, duck duck, image searches, all I got was gym equipment, radio ****, a phone book of worthless info. The company is Vulcan, a division of Casco. The point set number is PM 540. They're a dual point set. The measure is about 1 ¹/¹⁶" from pivot to adjuster hole. Miracles have happened here so here's some pics and the boxes they're in. I never heard of this company so I'm hopeful our brethren who hail from the northeast are hip to these. Thanks in advance, as always.
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  3. nochop
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    Looks like a set for early Chrysler duel point
     
  4. theHIGHLANDER
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    Chrysler Corp used their own and Autolite distributors mid 50s to early 60s, but I've yet to find a set that are dual like these are. In fact several AL points are nearly identical. I only have about 300, 350 sets to go thru in AL, Capac, Ford and others. NORS but these are a stumper so far, no crossover number in the catalogs.
     
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  5. squirrel
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    I think Mark is on the right track, here's the application for that part number...

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  6. 41 GMC K-18
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    Nice to see that computers and web searches, do not always know everything , regardless of the accuracy of the inquiry!

    But it's cool to see, that the reference books and cross references and interchange information, still resides on vintage printed paper in books!
     
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  8. theHIGHLANDER
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    I bought catalogs, that pm 540 shows up nowhere. I too have multiple cross refs, all but that one. Nothing has Vulcan or Casco numbers. Autolite, OEM, Capac/Wells, and what I think is a reference standard. Was hoping for someone who's heard of Vulcan parts.
     
  9. gene-koning
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    They sure look like a lot of sets I used to put in those Mopar point distributors. One would have to measure the distance from the pivot point to the screw location to match them up. The Mopar points had a stud the pivot point slid over, then had a tapped hole in the advance plate the mounting screw p***ed through the slotted hole in the points set and into. Then there was another hole in the advance plate at the end where the notch is, you put a screwdriver into that hole and caught the notch to adjust cranking dwell. The distance between the slotted hole and the pivot are critical for the points to work.
     
  10. Moriarity
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    here is the description from the auction on the cross reference manual. Note that Vulcan is listed... I bought it and will look it up for you when it arrives here.....
    There are 65 pages with WAY OVER 30,000 PART NUMBERS LISTED!!! The catalog gives the ignition parts MANUFACTURERS PART NUMBERS that interchange with NIEHOFF PART NUMBERS-GREAT TO HELP YOU IDENTIFY THOSE UNKNOWN IGNITION PARTS!!! (NOTE-this is NOT an application catalog-it interchanges part numbers). Manufactures listed in the catalog are: AC, Allcar, American Lincoln, AMC, AMPCO, American Parts, Atlas, Autolite, Autoswitch, Bendix, Bendix Scintilla, Borg Warner, American Bosch, Robert Bosch, Briggs & Stratton, Brush Master, Carter, Chrysler, Clinton, Cole Hersee, Continental Engine, Cushman, DKW, Datsun, Delco Remy, Ducellier, Echlin, Es*** International Inc, Evinrude, Fairbanks Morse, Fiat, Filko Ignition, Ford, Fram, General Automotive Specialty, Guaranteed Parts Co, Harley Davidson, Hirth, Holley, Homelite Corp, Ideal Corporation, International Harvester, Jacobsen, JLO, Johnson, Kaiser Jeep, Kem Mfg Co, Kohler, Lauson, Lawnboy, Lee Filter Corp, Lombard, Lucas, Mallory, Marelli, Master Parts, Mazda, McCulloch, Mercury KiekHaffer, Mopar, Motorcraft, Motorola, NAPA, Nippondenso, Onan, Opel, Outboard Marine, P & D, Perfect Parts, Perkins, Phelon, Pincor Pioneer, Pioneer Saw, Pollak, Porsche, Poulan, Powell, Poweready, Power Products, Peferred Electric, Prestolite, Pro Inc, Remington Mall, Renault, Rockwell, Rotax, Saab, Sachs, Scott McCullogh, SEV, Shurhit, Sierra Supply, Signal Stat, Simca, Sorensen Mfg, Standard Motor Products, Stewart Warner, Te***seh, Toyota, Triumph, TRW, Tung Sol, Tungsten Contract Mfg, Valley Forge, Volkswagen, Volvo, Vulcan, Wells, and Wico.
     
  11. theHIGHLANDER
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    Good stuff Mark, I guess I won't bother having my ***ociate grab it today...:rolleyes:

    He ****s all our ebay schtick when we need it.
     
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    I am quite certain that they are 59-64 autolite dist Chryslers with dual points.... we will see....
     
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    Look like the points in my '64 Avanti. Prestolite distributor
    KK
     
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  15. Contact Brian Keith at Foundry Street Cl***ic Parts, formerly N.B. Pease Antique Auto Parts. Brian is the new owner. He is only there on Fridays and Saturdays. Nelson Pease stops in frequently. Nelson is the one person that I know who could pour out a jar of NOS various points and always matched them up correctly. Nelson could identify those points for you as he has parts catalogues for many items going back about 100 years.
     
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    You guys do good work.
     
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  17. studebakerjoe
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    IMG_20230409_205858035.jpg This isn't what you want to see but so far going over a couple cross references the PM-540 isn't showing up. I have more books to check but so far nothing.
     
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  18. theHIGHLANDER
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    Later today I'll return to sorting and ID. Looking fwd to hearing from @Moriarity but I got plenty to do til then.
     
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  20. theHIGHLANDER
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    ^^^

    Yup, I think I have those in Autolite too. And Packard, Willys, Dodge 6, Ford 8BA and Y-block, early GM (without the allen set screw), and on and on and on, and on. Kool stuff. Monotony but kool.
     
  21. Moriarity
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    No 540 here either
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