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Technical does anyone happen to have a original 32 frame and a 2' long steel rule

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by nobby, Nov 30, 2024.

  1. nobby
    Joined: Jan 8, 2006
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    can you please measure the location of the central front crossmember rivet hole forthe crossmember
    then in from the outer rail - and over from the inside edge
    any pics of an aftermarket front x member in a rail to guess the stamping rad pad distance
    i have looked at the plans at 14 and 7/16 inches to centre
    but that doesnt do whatsname for caster and other stuff
    thanks

    oh - same with the rear

    want to be able to bolt in the crossmembers
    temporary and be able to flatpack - -storage
    thanks


    put the zero on the top flat part of the frame horn and measure back in a straight line
    thanks

    or imagine you have an original rear crossmember and an aftermarket front one with the rivet holes in already, and you can tap them.
    and want to fit them into a new set of rails without any real dims and are struggling
     
  2. 19Eddy30
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    from VA

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  3. alchemy
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    Sounds like you are working with repro rails? If so, be aware that each manufacturer shapes the ends of their horns slightly differently, and none of them are identical to originals. Also be aware that the width of the top and bottom flanges are different, and probably not the same as original either. Best to take your measurements from the outside surface and let the inner flange land where it may.

    The print that Eddy shows (I don’t think it was Ford created) is rather nice, but still is not perfect. My brother did extensive research from many different original frames and made adjustments to the print. Only then did he create his frame jig.
     
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  4. 19Eddy30
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    @alchemy , Just asking ,can you date the drawing? Curious , Many 32 around me have been done off of.
    It was obtained around 1988 ,I believe
    @ Hershey, since I had it enlarged.
     
  5. akoutlaw
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    That drawing looks like the same one that American Stamping sent me for my ASC rails. I got it about 5 years ago.
     
  6. nobby
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    32 dims EDIT 1.jpg ANY ONE HAVE ONE OF THEM NEW FANGLED METRIC MEASURING STICKS

    CAN CHECK THIS?
    AT THE FRONT, IS IT FROM THE CIRCULAR OPUTER EDGE OR THE FLAT ATOP THE RAIL

    so basicall, fit the front and rear spreader bars, shim them to 1016mm at the back and 600mm at the front
    clamp a straight edge at the outer circles, measure in at the front 364mm to centre of spring hole, with crossmember layed upside down on top and transfer rivet holes - similarily at the rear come in 520mm - check for square.

    or IF you have an OEM frame, what is the measurement from the outermost face on the frame horn circles in to the centre of the spring pocket holes

    does the 2878mm or 113.3'' dimension between the two spring pocket holes tally ?
    thanks
     
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  7. nobby
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    THE DRAWING HAS THE RIVET HOLES , BUT THERE ARE NO DIMS FOR THEM....
    THANKS!

    I am in more trouble that I thought as the rear crossmember i have was squshed up to fit inside 40 rails, so i am in no mans land there
    even worse, its a 33 34 rear member
    damn
     
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  8. nobby
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    also - say for example you wanted to fabricate a facsimile of a central 32 crossmember
    and you could draw it up in fusion 360
    almost if you like have it flat cut - laser or flow jet, with perforated slots on the 'brake' or fold lines, so you could bent it over a bench-weld, make it so it appeared OEM .where would you get thos dimensions, would someone need to do a brass rubbing almost?
     
  9. Clydesdale
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    Are you not better trying to find a frame this side of the pond to measure/photograph?

    Give Ade at Buckland Automotive a call, he will have a frame there or have a contact to point you toward.
     
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  10. Happydaze
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    Nobler, I take it you realise a 32 stock rear spring is curved in plan view and the crossmember, certainly in the spring mount area, is similarly curved to suit. I'm not seeing that coming from cnc cut / welded foldy bits to resemble originals! Now there's a challenge for ya!

    Chris

    Chris
     

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