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does this suck??? Fleetline progress...

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by kustombuilder, Jan 12, 2005.

  1. fuel pump
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    But IMHO size does matter and shorter is better.



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    That is SO, SO wrong.



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    Just seeing if anyone was awake this morning [​IMG]
     
  2. I'm not sure how to explain this, but....The detail itself around the tail lites doesn't look bad but I can see it filled in and leave the raised pertion to the outside. It would look more like a stamping than a piece of tube welded around the lense.

    I'm pretty sure the guys back in the day would build an area like that up with lead and then carve the outside edge to the desired shape.

    SO me being the "Bondo Master" that I am would fill in the area betweeen the tubing.

    Of course I wouldn't use just palon old Bondo. I would use some space age automotive leveling compound [​IMG]

    They use a lot of that on concept and show cars [​IMG]
     
  3. Donzie
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    I agree with 4t64rd. They should be longer and fade off into the body. Although I do also think the antenna points shoud be shorter.

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    Yeah, I'm more into this idea. Maybe what I'm not liking is the gap between the light and spear point. Put the surround all the way around the lense and then bring the spears off from that. Long on the top (maybe 6"), mimicking the rib that the front fender will have, and a short one (maybe 2")on the bottom as a fade away.
    Make sense?
     
  4. hatch
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    No, it doesn't ****, but I know what it needs. [​IMG]
     
  5. MrExotica
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    yup. I third 4t64dr's idea
     
  6. glassguy
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    i think they would look better simply frenched in 1/4" with no round rod at all just nice and smooth. when its done a scallop of the same design in the paint would look nice.but i dont know **** anyway
     
  7. hotrodladycrusr
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    Donzie, I'll give you my honest opinion, and remember, it's just my opinion. I feel the welded on ridge should just outline the tail light lens, not incorporate any of the extra fender and it should come to a subtle point on each end. IMO, body mods should enhance the appearence of the area, or make something function better and, again, just my opinion, the long exagerated "tips" are a distraction.

    I also feel the same way on the frenched antenna and feel that if the "shape" is going to be teardroppped then the tube heading down into the fender should be teardropped shaped as well.

    Keep in mind I am not a radical custom kind of gal, my tastes lean more toward very mild, so my opinion is just that, mine and I would have never said anything if YOU yourself wouldn't have asked.

    I'm kinda in the same boat myself, deciding on different bod mods on Big Olds, and I'm constantly asking both Earl Schieb and Roadstar their opinions. They are both very careful when they answer my specific questions because they don't want their tastes reflected in Big Olds, they want mine. When they give their opinions I've noticed they try to give the pros and cons of doing something a certain way, or having something look a certain way. They give reasons WHY something would look good, or not not good, done a certain way. I hope this helps. [​IMG]
     
  8. hatch
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    Denise...you got it!...I've been quiet on this one, but very tempted to photoshop.

    Have you ever noticed in the world of design, it's either women, or men with a "female perspective" that have style?

    Very few men have combined auto design with fabrication skills...not everyone is Sam Barris or Chip Foose.
     
  9. Slide
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    Maybe what I'm not liking is the gap between the light and spear point. Put the surround all the way around the lense and then bring the spears off from that. Long on the top (maybe 6"), mimicking the rib that the front fender will have, and a short one (maybe 2")on the bottom as a fade away.
    Make sense?

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    Exactly what I was thinking... except I'm more into about 3" at top and about 3/4" below. I really like the idea of having the spear above the taillight longer than the one below.

    But if you want to really mimic the Olds headlite treatment, go with about a 12-18" spear on top that gently fades along the entire length, and no spear below. ooooooh, I am liking that idea.

    And since you are asking for honest opinions, I think the taillights would look better if they were about an inch closer to the bumper (moved down along the radius of the fender toward the back of the car). But that may well be more out of personal preference.

    Those Winfield-Stude taillights are perfect for a Fleetline Chevy, tho.
     
  10. MrExotica
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    now that you mention it, I agree with cookie lady
     
  11. Rusty
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    Awesome progress. You amaze me with the detail
     
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    Have you ever noticed in the world of design, it's either women, or men with a "female perspective" that have style?


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    Hatch, that's a FABULOUS observation, but we just HAVE to do something with that hair of yours... call me! Toodles! [​IMG] [​IMG]

    I think if the tail light was lower on the fender, it wouldn't be as prominent, and I would have left it with no rod around it at all, kinda sneaky, "only notice it when it's lit" type thing.

    I haven't seen the tail light placement along with the license plate surround on the trunk together, I'm sure they are related in some way (alighned with the top or bottom or centered vertically). Both elements are "added" to the body. So a theme of having something raised around them is already been established.

    Soooo, Either go with Denises idea if just having the lens surrounded or visually "lengthen" the tail lights with extra rod.

    How do the ends of the license plate thing end?
     
  13. cleatus
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    If it was MY car I would make them shorter because it would bring less attention to them. When I look at a custom, especially one with nice flowing lines like that one has, I don't want to see something that interrupts that flow. And while they are a nice design element, I don't think you want them to jump out at you too much.

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    Well said. Let the shape of the car speak - not the little surface decorations.

    I think it would be better if it were more subtle - more like Don's Photoshop - with little or no spear on top and a subtle teardrop on bottom.

    If you let it sit a few days and then come back and look at it, you can usually get a better impression of what it really looks like, because it lessens the "I just created that - I don't want to re-do it" factor.
     
  14. hatch
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    Well...COME ON DOWN!!...bring your clippers [​IMG]....You sweet talkin devil!!!
     
  15. Donzie
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    Denise...you got it!...I've been quiet on this one, but very tempted to photoshop.

    Have you ever noticed in the world of design, it's either women, or men with a "female perspective" that have style?

    Very few men have combined auto design with fabrication skills...not everyone is Sam Barris or Chip Foose.

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    Oh, you mean you have to be gay!! I had my suspitions. [​IMG]
     
  16. hatch
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    Being the prez of the GMB, you should have the latest "Gaydar" [​IMG]....I'm not gay...(just a wannabe designer)...not a builder, cuz nobody remembers them....like the guy who pounded nails for Frank Lloyd Wright...what was his name anyways???
     
  17. kustombuilder
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    4t6frd you are tining of a different car. this one has no license surround. the lenses are where they are at (height wise) because that is where the shape of the lenses best fit the shape of the body.


    so, the concensus is that there is no concensus [​IMG] ...
     

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