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Features Doing Falcons Right

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by falconizer_62, Jul 23, 2008.

  1. falcon-61
    Joined: Nov 21, 2010
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    I put 2 1/4" blocks in the rear of my 61' and it worked ok but I wanna put some 3-3 1/2" in it now and cut a coil outta the front now. Just needs to be lower I think. Have any of you guys had problems with over heating with the stock fan and radiator set up? I was thinking of adding an electric fan or a bigger radiator to help keep it cooler in traffic. That wagon is cool as hell by the way! The wagons always had just a cool custom look even completely stock.
     
  2. j.r. Nice
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    DAMN....a generator!!!!:eek:

     
  3. cage66
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    Is that bad?
    I plan to upgrade later. For now I just want it to move under its own power.
     
  4. j.r. Nice
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    Not at all. It's just that you don't see them much anymore. I don't remember the output, but they probably wouldn't keep up with a heavy draw.

    I just converted my 62 Econoline to a single wire 100+ amp alternator...only because I had it lying around.
     
  5. cage66
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    I am having problem after problem with this car. New problem is I still have not started it but as I was trying today I noticed the GEN and OIL lights on the dash stay on even when the key is off.
    What should I look for?
     
  6. j.r. Nice
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    Sounds like the switch is bad.
     
  7. cage66
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    I put the old starter relay back on and the lights work correctly now. Even better, THE ENGINE FINALLY STARTED! I just went and got a new relay, hope its better than the last. If not the old one will stay.
     
  8. cage66
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    White smoke that leaves a sweet taste in my mouth.
    Looks like I have a blown head gasket. So its probably the best time to step up to a 200 head and exhaust manifold.
    Anything special needed to do this or is it all direct bolt on?
     
  9. need louvers ?
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    Should bolt right up. I can't remember what engine you have, but if it's a 144 the chambers are quite a bit smaller on that engine so compression might become an issue. Allot of the Falcon guy over on fordsixperformance.com reccomend milling the head about .060 to compensate for the modern composit gaskets and bump the compression to about 9-1.
     
  10. jroberts
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This Ranchero belongs to Paul Calaguiro of Hamilton, Ontario. The Ranchero has been raced for a number of years in ECTA and at Loring, Maine with the Loring Timing Association. The car has run as fast as 150+ in the mile and half course at Loring. It is presently running a much modified Pinto engine.
     
  11. cage66
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    I have a 170 and I think I can get a 200 head cheap.
     
  12. need louvers ?
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    Not a super hugedifference in the two, bigger valves by a touch maybe. But do get it cut at least a little bit to compensate for todays thicker head gaskets (they are about .028 these days). Most of these heads have a touch of warp to them by this point in the game anyway.
     
  13. falconizer_62
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    ;) Those engines were real over achievers...
     
  14. need louvers ?
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    No, but every little bit helps with these things. And from personal experience, bumping the compression a bit is a quick way to gain a bit of tourque, throttle response, and it helps smooth out the idle too. Add two more carbs and a post '68 exhaust manifold and the engine is a completely different animal.
     
  15. cage66
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    Maybe I should just get the whole 200 fix this one and just build the 200 up since its a better base with the 7 mains and all.
     
  16. Fordguy321
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    my comet has got a T5 comin to it !!
     
  17. rocketsam
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    Has anybody seen these before? I picked them up off a guy who couldnt use them on his car, im curious to what they where mounted on before?
     

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  18. need louvers ?
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    Honestly Sam, I think they might be the wheels from a type of wheel that was breifly popular on new cars in the seventies called "wire baskets" The plain chrome base wheel had a threaded center cap that took an ungodly ugly wire wheel insert to look kinda like a Tru-Spoke or Appliance wire wheel.... Or a cut up shopping cart! They look pretty good just plain though.
     
  19. rocketsam
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    Ahh, your good, your good! I didnt notice they came with the centers like those! I agree though, they look neat without them, thinking of just finding caps and lug nuts for them and running them as is
     
  20. cage66
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    Those look like shit.
    Ill take em.
    haha
    What size are they? Look for some 4 lug spider caps maybe.
    I am having the hardest time finding something to roll until I can convert to 5 lug.
    Would love to just find a nice set of 4 lug 15" steelies/smoothies but seems imposible. Gonna start looking for Honda accord spare wheels. May be too narrow though.
    Was gonna buy these but dont think the backspacing will work 5.1" The pic is 5 lug but they offer it in 4x114.3 also.
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  21. rocketsam
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    Haha they are 13s, ive had the worst luck trying to find wheels, or people not wanting to ship wheels. I plan on rolling on them for a while till i can get something different. Datsun wheels work? Or you can order 4 lug smoothies online, believe their 85 a wheel
     
  22. cage66
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    I am thinking about finding 4 Honda accord spare rims and re rimming them.
    Main reason I want to get away from the 13s are the lack of tire options and PRICE of said tires.
    Heres a pic I found of some re rimmed Accord spares. They are 8" I think I would go 6"
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    Chances are I am just wasting time figuring all this out and I am likely picking up a 64 falcon to swap out all the suspension and part out/scrap the rest.
    Have one lined up just gotta wait till I am up there to pick it up>
    I know the 64 has a wider axle but seems it is only 3/4" each side so hopefully I can still stuff supremes or something equally cool under it.
     
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  23. Tomkat39
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    Here's some of my 60 Comet 4 dr wagon. 65 Mustang front susp. 302 mustang , 74 maverick 8" rear.
     

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  24. rocketsam
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    those accord wheels look like the same steel wheels, just without the small nubs on the insides of them, they dont look bad at all!
     
  25. cage66
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    Does anyone know if you can drill the old falcon/mustang 4 lug drums to ford 5 lug?
    4 x 114.3 (4.25) to 5 x 4.5 (I think)
     
  26. need louvers ?
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    need louvers ?
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    Nope. But you might contact ScareBird disc brakes and take a look at the aluminum hubs that he does. They direct fit Falcon four lug spindles, and I think he could probably do five lug for you. Plus his disc brake kits are great.
     
  27. Bigcheese327
    Joined: Sep 16, 2001
    Posts: 6,738

    Bigcheese327
    Member

    Falcons are 4 on 4.5. It wasn't until the Pinto they went down to 4.25.

    I can't speak for the rear axle, but the front hubs on an early Falcon are square, so there isn't room to go to five.
     
  28. Lowriders Art Gallery
    Joined: Apr 9, 2010
    Posts: 612

    Lowriders Art Gallery
    Member
    from Montana

    This is just the thread I've been waiting for. I have a 63 Falcon convert that has been burned, and one that has been rolled, and a 4dr parts car. Hopefully I have enough to get started on a v8 powered convert. Pictures real soon.
     
  29. cage66
    Joined: Jun 4, 2010
    Posts: 117

    cage66
    Member
    from reno

    Thank you I got the 4 X 114.3 right just got confused.
    If 13" tires weren't so damn expensive I wouldn't care to swap just yet. But I cant drop that much cash and still be on stock 4 lug 13s
    Was the 5 X 4.5 correct for the 5 lug swap?
     
  30. Bigcheese327
    Joined: Sep 16, 2001
    Posts: 6,738

    Bigcheese327
    Member

    Yes, Ford 5-lug is 5 on 4.5. Have you looked into 14-inch four lugs, off a Maverick or 6-cyl Mustang? That's what I've got on one of my birds.
     

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