Technical Dragula Steering Box...Was it a Ross?

Hello all,
Knowing the Hambs knowlege, I had a request to see if they could solve this one. Not sure how many Dragula or Munser Koach experts are out there, but a freind had a question on what was the steering box on used on the Dragula? The link below is what he sent me for reference. At first I just assumed they used some circle track box of the day, picture listed shows otherwise. I cannot seem to match it up with a Ross box on images alone. Plus the photo on the link is not that great but enough that someone should know.


http://thecaveboard.yuku.com/topic/9564/DragULa-Steering-Box#.U4A6XHbQN71

 

does not look like a ross, atleast the type most all late 50's dragsters used (like my lyndwood) here is i a shot of a ross in a rail, there is no mount hole cast into the top like in the pic you show? may be another type of ross box, the ones Lyndwood used were from 49-53(?) crosleys, but ross had box's in willys,fork trucks & combines so?????
Paul

 

Whats interesting about the Koach and the Dragula is the story of the construction of them originally. I understand that Barris really didn't build the cars per say. He had his team. So some of the details are sketchy. I have a friend who is trying to build an authentic Koach, but was trying to find out what box they used on that, and again, varying degrees of opinion.

I think we are started in the right direction

 

Guys...
Eric Sharp in San Jose did clones of the Munsters coach, Dragula, and the Green Hornet's Black Beauty.
Barris was at Pleasanton when Eric drove the Munsters coach in, and gave Eric a 'casual warning' about plagiarism. (imagine that...the king of Plg. warning the serf!)

Anyway, Eric said he studied the Dragula underpinnings and duplicated parts to a tee.
(except the engine: Eric used a Kawasaki 900 engine/trans)
His steering box was a Ross, but not one with the large cone & nut on the worm end;
The one pictured above looks to be later design than '30-'40s, as they had the 4 bolt plate with stacked gaskets for end play.
Also unusual with the 7/16" bolts tapped right into the case. This would suggest industrial use, as automotive road use would wallow the threaded cast iron bores 'til the bolts loosened, case is not in a captive installation.
Auto/truck Ross design use a flange for mounting, in a bracket pinch design, bolts & nuts, with SAE threads. (USS threads in cast iron would be studs & nuts, if: but not in a stressful application such as suspension or steering)

 

One of the good things about the Hamb. Some real good people with real knowledge.

 

Hello , Looks like an early single pin Ross to me . Ross built steering gears for everything from lawn mowers to Semi trucks . Here is a pic of the Ross in my pre war midget .

 

Looked at your picture again . Not a very good picture , but I think I figured it out . Still think it is a Ross and probably a single pin style . Here is a pic of another Ross , that I think might be what your looking for . Ross # S122985 .