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Technical Drive Train Resuscitation Basics

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Fan Attic, Mar 22, 2018.

  1. squirrel
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    nice save!

    My brother and I just started on his LaSalle....1940 Miller Duplex. It'll be a blast. Filled up a couple big garbage bags with rodent debris, and pulled it over to the shop. It needs to be roadworthy by October.
     
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  2. RMONTY
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    Awesome thread. Love how you started with the basics, didn't get in a hurry and made the ol truck run again. I did an "awakening" of a 51 Chebby a few months back and enjoyed every moment of the "running when parked" resurrection. Subscribed!
     
  3. Well, the "go for a drive" today didn't quite work out, either the fuel pump or carburetor aren't cooperating, but nothing is so bad that you can't throw it all away and start over so I am still optimistic about tomorrow.
    Never give up!
    And thank you for all the kind words, and Jim & RMonty, don't forget to take us all along on your next adventure! It's what makes this place worth the cost of having access to the interweb thingy deal, faceplant, instafux, what ever stuff, or something like that.
    Saturday! Good night!!!
     
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  4. warhorseracing
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    from cameron wv

    Definitely words to live by.
     
  5. BamaMav
    Joined: Jun 19, 2011
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    Neat old truck. Anything that old around here got devoured by the pulp wooders years ago, then cut up for s****. The log woods destroyed many an old truck, and many a man, too.
     
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  6. Yea, I guess we are pretty lucky here in the high desert, a fair number of iron conservationists and weather conducive to metal lasting a while.
     
  7. Latigo
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    Enjoyed reading along as I had my Sunday morning coffee. I used to bring a few back to life with help from my Dad years ago when they were easy to find behind the barns. Really amazing how much neglect an old rig can endure and still spring back to life. Good job.
     
  8. Bugguts
    Joined: Aug 13, 2011
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    Thanks for sharing the fun with us.Hopefullynew and old guys will see that there is great satisfaction in reviving a dead vehicle. Your methods will be really helpful to the future guys trying this.
     
  9. Thanks for looking guys, I am still hopeful others will add other "basics" that might get a "virgin" over or around an obstacle he or she doesn't fully understand. And so much for the perfect weather here in the Banana Belt of the high desert. (Damn you Al Gore)

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  10. Well, I missed something in the fuel pump or carb supply. Once the needle and seat were clear she ran fine again. And the hubcaps showed back up from the platers so I got the clips riveted back on them and installed today. Everyone had to have a ride so now that the 7 year old Grandson knows how to start her up, off we went. Just around the bottom of the pasture, but it was "hundreds of smiles per gallon".

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  11. Saxman
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    Man, I love threads like this.


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  12. So the old Stromberg has been soaking in a bucket for a while now, and I needed the bucket for something else today so I patched it all back together and it seems to be pretty complete, save for the throttle arm. I would guess this is a pretty hard to find piece so if you need a Stromberg BXOV-2 that just needs a float and a new piece of 5/16" br*** filed to fit, I can help. PM with info requests. 35 Binder 40.jpg 35 Binder 41.jpg 35 Binder 42.jpg 35 Binder 43.jpg 35 Binder 44.jpg
     
  13. Well, the war department has decided we need to keep this one for a while so to make it a little more functional I pulled an old home made bed off another truck we had and made it fit the Corn Binder, sort of. Going to add a step and a hitch to the back so I can use it to move stuff when needed. She thinks it's "cute".

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  14. RMONTY
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    That ol' truck looks pretty sweet! I really like the flatbed on it. It makes it look complete.....
     
  15. studebaker46
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    now if this thread don't make you smile you are in severe depression Tom
     
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  16. Yea, she said it looked like "it grew there". I need to get it out and grab a profile shot, it really looks pretty cool. I may have to spend some money on another couple tires that will hold air for the rear. It's a little sketchy reinflating these old split rims when they get low, knowing they are a lot older than me. I don't think I could take that kind of abuse! If you're in SW Idaho and have a stash of 7.00x20 tires that might hold air with a good tube, let me know.
     
  17. bobss396
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    Pretty amazing build so far and not a lot of $$$ shelled out.
     
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  18. Thanks Bob, and you are right, so far the most expensive thing after purchase was getting the hubcaps rechromed. Getting two tires mounted on the split rims cost $100. The new door gl*** was only $55. But good thing I work cheap.
    I think I'll restore the generator function next so I don't have to keep charging the battery, and put a left turn semaphore back on it. And maybe some side boards on the bed.
     
  19. Well I have been to ****shooter and know that it is just about the same size as piggsnarf, maannn you are out in the sticks and I'd wrestle you for that old hay hauler. I'm in my friend. Maybe later then sooner but I'm in.

    This is gonna be fun. ;)
     
  20. Boy ******, I sure didn't figure you for a cowboy or a sage grouse hunter, which are about the only reasons I can think of you would ever go out to the ****shooter I live close to, but live and learn. Glad you like my new girl friend, she is great to look at and fun to ride. I'm kind of surprised the warden wants to keep her around.
    And hey, my Dad was born and raised outside Buckner, Grand Pa had a store in Oak Grove for a few years. We used to go visit one of Dad's buddies from school in Raytown when we went back there in the summer. It's a small world.

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  21. bobss396
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    Still the coolest truck to come along in a while. I used to do truck tires for a living, I have some of the tools still and only do MY stuff. The generator and regulator should be pretty simple after all you've done. Nice job on the battery box, a work of art.
     
  22. mkebaird
    Joined: Jan 21, 2014
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    Cool truck, nice job on getting it to go again. I found my '35 Binder in Payette, Idaho a couple of years ago. Mine must be a little older, it's got mechanical brakes, also it's a C-35 with OHV six. The rocker arm shaft supports were broken on mine so I decided to tear down the motor. Many $$ later it's almost like new - cylinders, pistons, valves, guides, springs, etc. Amazed me to be able to find new parts for this obscure truck! IMG_2587.JPG
     
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  23. Man-O-Man, she's a beauty! Is the OHV engine an original 1935 or was it swapped in over the years? Nice to see you were able to keep the original hubs and wheels. Any plan to update those to something there are parts available for? I am struggling with the cost to maintain the 80+ year old split rims but really want to keep the forged spoke hubs and "new" caps. If it stays around here much longer I am going to have to address the brake system which is all hydraulic on mine, except for the parking brake on the transmission output.
    Your "resuscitation" of a similar engine would sure be a good contrast to the good fortune I had with this one, if you care to spend the time do***enting it.
     
  24. bobss396
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    You should be able to dig up split rim pieces that are in good shape. The tires are around, not cheap new, recaps used to hold up well for me. I like the look of the OG wheels, the truck would not be the same with something else. Look for someone with a stash of old fire truck parts for wheel options.
     
  25. Thanks for the tip on fire truck parts, and previous kind words Bob. My wheels really are not in bad shape, I just know the ring can unseat when the tire goes flat. Hard to detect on the rear duals, but also fairly captive if they do come apart. I've got a couple things about ready to sell which should fund at least a couple more tires, if I can find decent take offs.
    And thanks to others who've noted their appreciation, it's been fun to share.
     
  26. bobss396
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    How many pieces are your rims? The front looks like just the one outer ring. These are a little trickier to seat than the 3-piece rims, with the separate square lock ring. They have to be super clean, free of rust and big gouges and can't be misshapen.
     
  27. Yep, you nailed it Bob, no separate "lock ring" just the hoop and outer bead ring. I know these hurt a lot of people over the past 100+ years, but they also provided Billions of trouble free miles to millions and millions of users so I'm not going to lose much sleep over them, just going to keep an eye open for a cheaper solution. The shop I use has been servicing our ag community for 40+ years and still does a few split rims occasionally when it's busy.
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  28. bobss396
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    Just round up the best parts possible, clean and paint everything. The -2-piece rims you have to take your time with airing up. Make sure the ring comes up straight and square. Do a test fit first so you know what it looks like when it is "home". We had cages on our trucks, but a pain to use. Nobody used them. We would air them up under the back step bumper of the service truck.
     
  29. mkebaird
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    Thanks, this truck was parked in 1958 - fortunately right next to the owner's house, so not much damaged/missing over the years. The motor is original, it's a 'FAB-3', 223ci (now 233 with oversize pistons & liners). It's the 'big' engine, I think it only came in the C-35 or bigger. One of the things I like best is the wheels so I'll keep them. My rims aren't the best, everyone says I'm suicidal to work on them. The advice from bobss396 is right on. I air them up on the truck - the rim clamps help keep everything aligned. If you install them on the rear axle the locking ring faces into the truck so they can't kill you.
    I will be do***enting my build, just not sure this is the right forum - although I am making a 'pickup' out of it. Already shortened the WB from 160" to 138" and will build an 8' bed. Here's a shot before I took it all apart:
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  30. lonejacklarry
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    I went to Raytown high school. Do you remember any of the names of the Raytown folks?
     
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