Broncobilly72... I suggest 3 things: 1. Heat it with an electric immersion heater first (obviously no open flamed heater) to help it flow, instead of thinning it with too much flammable fuel. 2. Try it out on a test piece to see how much it stinks and how long the smell sticks around. Some of the bar oils STINK and kerosene ain't all that enjoyable either. 3. Wear a hooded respirator. That stuff is murder on lungs and eyes. Ask me how I know. Customline Vicky... wow "clinkers". Haven't that word for a long time. Thanks for the memories.
Thats why there are latemodels to destroy in the winter,I built a 65 custom 500 more door to drive in the winter but since it came from the south and survived this long I bought a 89 crown vic to drive in the salt and let it sit unless I absolutely have to drive it and it will get washed after driving. My 55 sunliner and 37 chevy p/u will never see the salt again,the 55 was the family daily driver untill 68 and even though it looked decent the Ohio winters done a bunch of damage to it and I do not want to fix it again. Jeff
actually they found that a lot of the old timers who changed oil for a living were getting skin cancer on their hands, thats how they found it out. clean oil is fine,it's not the oil thats dangerous,it's the combustion byproducts in the oil. chain bar oil is probably fine as is any clean oil. thats why guys wear gloves when changing oil now, it's not because they are afraid of getting dirty,it's because they are afraid of cancer. gloves are cheap. they used to promote cigarettes as being good for you too,back when no one knew better. You never know,friend of mine is 90 plus now and been smoking cigars since he got out of the army after WW2,smoked ciggarettes before that and he's healthy as a horse still working. still smoking. you never know.
Around here it's about a 3 or 4 day cycle. Snow/sleet/and or freezing rain about every 3 or 4 days. After the storm it's always cold as hell and windy for a day or two. The following day it warms up a bit and isn't too bad. But the salt and sand get reapplied about every 3rd or 4th day. Washing your car is great but you have only one shot at it where it's above freezing, and then the following day it's back in the slop again. I've heard of the oil trick many times, but never tried it myself. I did paint the underside of my old daily, from the frame out to the rockers with fiberglass resin, which lasted for about 5 or 6 years. I also painted the insides of the doors with it. The body held up very well, but the back end of the frame finally let go. Of course I can remember them oiling dirt roads every summer to keep the dust down. Now you would probably be shot on site for even thinking about it. So it's probably best to keep your classic out of harms way, if you want it to last.
Had to break down and drive my 83 no rust v8 s10 yesterday then spent three dollars at the car wash before putting it away. I am seriously thinking of a coating for the bottom. Maybe something like wd40 or just pure silicone.
Ive always just had a piece of shit beater. Its about the only way around it in iowa. . Or i guess you could hose it down with oil....im sure the paint shop would really love that. lol.
Hello Pitts64: I did not find it at Ebay. Is one of these what you are talking about?? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21292463-Nondripping-garage-door-lubricant What is its consistency?? This board mentions ones of different make up's. Thank you
When your old car is the only car you have and you dont have a garage to put it in driving in the winter is a must . living in nj with the nova it wasnt that bad in the winter .. also helped that my front main seal went one year right before winter so there was a nice oil undercoating . here in PA now with that liquid calcium they put down its pretty harsh my wheel wells are bubbeling a little bit but underneith the car its still all rust free people are often surprised when they see under neith it. . just have to keep the underbelly oiled and wash the body good . i had to do body work on it this winter anyways so the wheel wells will be attended too .
No, the best deal would be to keep the car in the garage until April. You won't find a dusty dirt road this time of year w/o plastering the underside of the car with salt and sand first. Listen to your fellow Iowans and those from the snow-belt familiar with the crap they put on our roads.
Joe; Thanks a bunch for that info! I greatly appreciate it, as I will be applying the bar oil this week. Right now; the only respirators I have on hand, are some 3m disposables, with particulate filters (for spraying paint) - and a pre-filter on the outside. I am sure I will need the petroleum type filters? Where would I pick up an electric immersion heater? Probably Tractor Supply or Home Depot? Thanks again for the info!
I been thinking about this. I wonder how well chain wax (for motorcycle chains) would work I've used it on chains before It sprays out pretty thin and penetrates well then thickens up, its parfin based and stays on pretty good. 20 ounce cans are about 9 bucks I bet a few cans would do a car.
thats what the lps3 does ,it's a wax base with oil in it it's specifically designed for what everyone is trying to do.
Hmmm chain wax you say? Interesting. Watch out for creative ways that build up a film on the car that can crack.. and hold water.. and promote rust! I've seen that with some older commercial undercoatings. They get hard and crack. That forms a wonderful pocket for water and salt to sit in and have a rust-fest. Filters plug up really quick with oil unless they are specifically made for oil. That's why I mentioned hooded air supplies. Ventilation, ventilation, ventilation! Get a big fan that you don't care about getting oily. That should reduce the wear on the filter. Wear goggles and full-length clothing too. You'll be surprise where that stuff can get into. And it's tough to clean off the skin. Immersion heaters.. ya, I expect Tractor Supply would have that. We don't have one of them in this part of the world but hardware stores and the like should stock them. Maybe even HF. Surely they couldn't screw THAT up too much by having cheap, dangerous.. ok ok. You could make one but you'd have to be smart about it. Good amount of danger there. Just don't do what these guys did. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6MwymLApFk
My recently painted daily driver '88 S-10 is already starting to rust and bubble just from the salt this year so far. I wash it underneath and outside about once a week. What really bothers me though is that I don't think its ever seen more than one or two winters and the new paint.
Joe, I found this immersion heater at ACE hardware http://tinyurl.com/5wzy7w It should do the job? I ordered some oil pre filters from Grainger. I will be spraying the bar oil on my daily driver outside. I am going to wear head, eye protection, plus some old rain wear over my clothes.
That would work but it might be a slow unit to heat with. Those are typically made for heating up a cup of liquid at a time. But hey.. they are cheap enough to try though! Good luck.
I'm just wondering if there would be any adverse effects to thinly spraying new motor oil or bar oil all over the outside of my truck? I'm not sure what kind of paint it is and I don't believe it has a clear coat over it, very little hardener as well.
By all over the outside do you mean the painted parts? Hmmm, oily outside coating. Dust, bugs, icky-stuff stuck to it. Lean up against it and get oily. Get it on the glass and good luck cleaning so you can see. Effect on trim? Maybe wreck fresh paint. I'd say no. But I don't know nuthin. Wax it man. Wax it a lot. Maybe someone knows a better product...
I thought about a good thick coating of wax last night. Its just starting to barely rust in the body line, and the corners of the tailgate and gas tank lid and at the seam of the rocker and cab corner. Its bright banana yellow and it shows up like crazy.
Wax won't help for long in that case. You must get rid of the rust. It's like cancer. Setup a shower of safest rust remover or evaporust to get rid of the stuff that is hard to clean up. Goto their websites to see what I mean. Then you need to prep and seal the cleaned metal. Otherwise you are trapping the rust in and it will eat from the inside out. Nasty stuff.
Well, after reading all the input on here. I gave it a shot today at Sethro's shop with my 93 Ranger and 3 bottles of gutbucket Meijer 10W30. I bought a $14 Harbor Frieght gun and we filled it up with the oil. Didn't need an emulsion heater, or keroseen, or anything. It sprayed a nice thick coat on everything. I bought a resperator, but I'm going to return it as I didn't catch any hint of fumes or oil in a vapor form that I might have inhaled. It does kinda make a mess, so lay out some pianter's drop cloths or a tarp. I have yet to see if it makes a difference, as my truck is KINDA rust free undernieth. I guess it takes a few years to tell. John
Left Michigan in 71 in a 64 Impala. Bought a 57 Chev in Miss in 72 and sold the 64 to my fellow GI buddy. We both ended up in Calif in 72. Shortly after getting to Calif, the frame on the 64 broke in half.
My 37 as never seen salt years ago they only used cinders on the road. Now it goes off the road until spring.
I drove my truck home from the upholstery shop last february on dry roads. I got salt on my new bob drake grill and didn't know it. I didn't wash the truck. As a result my 40 ford chrome grill is pitted from the salt.
I used to drive a beautiful 48' Pirsch firetruck/tourbus. Here's a picture of it the day I spent hauling a FDNY hockeyteam around as they visited chi-town. This was an incredible vehicle to drive topless down michigan avenue or along the shoreline of the lake. I had a boss that was immune to proper thinking and had a tendancy of being super cheap. While he insisted that I cover these vehicles and their seats when they were in my posession so stray leaves wouldn't find theyre way inside. He some how managed to park it UNDER Lake Shore Drive for the winter, UNCOVERED. Lake Shore Drive rained a mixture of salt and calcium chloride upon it for about 3 months. I rode my bicycle downtown to fetch it for the St. Patricks day festivities looking for it as I had no Idea where it was at. I was only told that it was safe and dry under a bridge. Just the opposite was true. For starters,Other than this poor rig being covered in graffiti, half of the paint and all of the chrome was covered with a layer of well imbedded rust!!!! All hinged / moving parts were rusted shut! The door hinges, Hood hinges, steering, Kingpins, etc......I had to get the hinged hood open and that bent just trying to open it up a bit. The chrome took a couple of days of scrubbing to get the imediate rust off of it and of course it was all comprimized with lots of imbedded rust that would never come out and continue to grow forever. The chrome and steel weren't the extent of the damage....All of the 36 passengers worth of purdy white bus seats had dried up, shrunken up, cracked, and split!!! (calcium chloride is some bad shit!!!). And like I said, even the paint was covered with rust....To be honest, i'm sure you can imagine how this hurt to see a vehicle that I cared greatly for wrecked in such an ignorant manner. If you ever want to ruin a vehicle in a span of just a few months, this is one way to do it. I worked the Pirsch for that holiday, cleaned it up and wished it the best, This last year I drove another truck for the same holiday, only to get stiffed on all the cash I put out for necessities like Oil, and spark plugs, etc...( I tend to be patient, but it's been almost a year now. thats ok, the reciepts dont lie). Where were all of the bosses trucks parked last year? In a lot that he got for begging, for free.....yep...you guessed it....Underneath the spray of L.S.D. (Lake Shore Drive).
Well I have to admit, My first car was my 56 chevy (avitar) It was 90 percent rust free and the underbelly was clean bare lookin metal, when I got it 20 years ago. Being my first car (and only car) I did drive it through a few winters, but thats all it took. now I have more rust than I do car....It's one of those things that, "If you only knew." Hindsight is 20/20.....What a kick in the ass, hindsight is....
Drove on the salted roads here for the last week... Who cares, clean the car and get back out there....
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